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MSE News: Beat Nationwide's Football Bond at the bookies

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This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

"The four-year fixed savings deal includes a bonus if England win the World Cup but another gamble could pay even more ..."

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  • johnmoney05
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    If my brother asked me about this, I would tell him "are you idiot, don't do it! You are gambling your money". Of course, here is open forum, so I would say, "what a genius, smart! Good advice! Thanks for your hard work!!"
  • Gorgeous_George
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    Don't forget that the wiinings from the bookies can be invested to earn interest. You might even end up with a free bet.

    GG
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  • ffacoffipawb
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    MSE_Guy wrote: »
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "The four-year fixed savings deal includes a bonus if England win the World Cup but another gamble could pay even more ..."
    Read the full story:

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    A pointless account, for the saver, as England won't win.
  • JimmyTheWig
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    If you want to take a different gamble, you could always take the ICICI account and, based on the £5,000 example, use the £60 additional interest a basic rate taxpayer would get compared to Nationwide if England don't win, and place a bet on England winning.
    But you wouldn't have the £60 at that point.

    I think you'd need to put £4948 into ICICI, which would earn you £752 interest giving a final balance of £5700 (the same as if you put £5000 into Nationwide and England lose). Then put the remaining of your £5000, which is £52, on England to win at the bookies. Which would return £364 if they win. Still much better than Nationwide, but not quite as good as the article suggests. [Though I take GG's point that you could then put that £364 in the bank to earn interest. But I bet (npi) that most people would just spend it!!]
  • MSE_Martin
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    But you wouldn't have the £60 at that point.

    I think you'd need to put £4948 into ICICI, which would earn you £752 interest giving a final balance of £5700 (the same as if you put £5000 into Nationwide and England lose). Then put the remaining of your £5000, which is £52, on England to win at the bookies. Which would return £364 if they win. Still much better than Nationwide, but not quite as good as the article suggests. [Though I take GG's point that you could then put that £364 in the bank to earn interest. But I bet (npi) that most people would just spend it!!]

    I actually did that in my first version of the quote - then decided it made it very difficult for most people to understand the point - so I simplified. You are 100% right though of course
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  • JimmyTheWig
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    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    I actually did that in my first version of the quote - then decided it made it very difficult for most people to understand the point - so I simplified. You are 100% right though of course
    Yes, I wondered if that was the case. Similar to calling triple points at Boots a 12% reduction.
  • sdooley
    sdooley Posts: 918 Forumite
    :cool:

    Or, if you have any debts (other than a low rate mortgage) you could use the savings to pay off the debt and, if you feel inclined to have a flutter, keep it to what you can afford....
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