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Can I afford a puppy ? Upfront costs help please

mishkanorman
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I have wanted a dog for over 10 years now and im finally (almost) in a position where its possible, however my OH is concerned that the costs may be too high and we really dont have a clue whats involved 
Ive found a breeder near me who charges £250 per pup for a springer/border collie cross.
Can anyone give me some rough values as to what i need to pay for from there ?
TIA
mishka

Ive found a breeder near me who charges £250 per pup for a springer/border collie cross.
Can anyone give me some rough values as to what i need to pay for from there ?
TIA
mishka
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Just going on what we got our Jack when we first had him.
insurance! - depends who you go with and what cover you get!
Bed - £5 - pillow thing - was later freecycled a plastic dog bed but you could use a spare folded up blanket in a quiet corner if you dont want him/her on yoru bed or if you dont mind them on the sofa
Bowls - £4 (at most) - unless you ahve soem old bowls in the cupboard you dont mind using before this.
food - see what the pups fed on at present though as it may not be wise to change to a different meal straight away until they are settled at home.
Collar - £2
lead - £2 -3 again
flea/wormer - although i would have thought they would have been treated for these already although they arent much really and some you can get last 3 months, usually about £8-9 as well as vaccinations but agian woudl think they'd had these too
toy - to help them settle - £1-2
we did later get him his ID tag - with his name and our number on it and that was only a few quid too.Making Changes To Save My LifeCurrent weightloss - 2lbs (week 1)0 -
neutering and microchipping.. ask your vet for costs.
Are you sure you want a springer/ collie x - whilst I know nothing about you, and you may well be the right owner for one of these I feel it is important to consider - they are a combination of two lively, high energy working breeds, who can run all day - personally I don't think they are a great choice if you live in a town, and they do need a hell of a lot of exercise and can be quite bonkers and hard to train.
Without exercise al that energy and work drive will be diverted elsewhere - you may find the dog becomes destructive etc, if not enabled to burn off enough energy.
I caught one who was running at cars in the middle of the road a couple of months ago. He was almost a year old, and mad as a box of frogs. I managed to trace his owners, he had slipped his collar on the way to park and bolted. He was a little b*gger! a lovely dog, but incredibly demanding!0 -
Also - re initial costs - bear in mind that rescue centres very often have pups in, and that they will neuter, vaccinate and microchip them for before you get them!
Also, a rescue centre charges a rehoming fee that is rarely much more than £100. (I think neutering is about £60 upwards, chipping is about £20, and vacs are about £25-30)
Bearing in mind that the rehoming fee includes the vacs, chip and neuter, you are getting a bargain, and also saving a dogs life.0 -
Ive been warned about both breeds being a handful, ive met the dog who will be the mother and she is incredibly calm, the breeder gave advice about walking and training etc and also runs puppy classes. The dog isnt old enough to breed until later in the year so we have some time to re-consider !
A bit of backround info about us, we have never owned a dog, we have 2 young children and 4 cats and live in a small town. The dog will be company for me as I dont work during the day and will have lots of time available to spend with it.
I had decided against re-homing due to the children and cats, my friend was advised when she looked that they consider children, cats and men to be negative factors and as I wanted a dog of a certain size from a puppy i always felt the chances of getting one from a rescue centre were slim.
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£250 is very expensive for a cross breed. You could buy a pedigree springer for that amount. There seems to be a lot of ridiculously priced cross breeds round at the moment since the whole designer breeds thing took off. Don't be fooled!0
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Puppies do come up at rescue centres surprisingly often, often because they have taken in a b1tch who is already pregnant.
I have only ever had rescue dogs (4 of them since being a child) and havent had a bad one yet! If you would like to have a look at my doggie she is on this page: http://www.mayflowersanctuary.com/HAPPY%20ENDINGS.HTM
she is 'Badger' - almost at the bottom of the page.
Obviously, you have to make the best choice for you and your family, but if you are keen on getting a pup, it might be worth putting out feelers to local rescue centres, just to see if it might be an option for you.
Anyway, whatever you decide, best of luck
fc x
just re-read your post - many rescue centres can actually tell you if a dog is child friendly or cat friendly - they see what they are like with children and or cats before they re-home them, cos they do not want to give you the wrong dog for your family, who may well end up back there!0 -
I second what Foreign Correspondent says about choice of breed - we got our English Springer Spaniel puppy back in August last year and he does take an awful lot of exercise to keep him happy. (we had done lots of research before choosing this breed and he fits into our lifestyle perfectly - we are off on a gun dog training weekend soon to teach us a bit more about how to give him opportunities to use his natural abilities).
Anyway, a quick run down of what our puppy has cost us:
Prior to bringing him home:
A canvas crate and puppy 'playpen' to give him his 'den' in our living room (together cost about £75 off ebay (all new items))
Soft padded bed to fit inside crate (£27.99)
2 x spaniel water bowls (shaped to prohibit ears falling in water - £16)
2 x food bowls, stainless steel with rubber non slip edging - £10)
Blanket (£3)
Soft toy (we slept with it a couple of nights then gave it to him on initial visit at 4 weeks old - he still has it now, carefully hidden, by him, in his crate - £5)
Since we've had him:
Chip fitting at vet (we went for the expensive one that gives a temperature reading to save him having it done the traditional way!!!)
Monthly insurance £22
Monthly plan with our vet which covers wormer, flea treatment, innoculations £12
Monthly Food - James Wellbeloved Huge Bag £37
Monthly Food additions - liver (for homemade liverbread training treats) £5; punnet cherry tomatoes a week, pot bio yogurt a week, box mini bonios a month; box marrowbone biscuits a month, large carrot a day.
Collar and ID Tag (£10)
Harness - 1st grew out of (£5); 2nd chewed to bits (£5); 3rd not happy with design (£7); 4th and latest - extra nice design, padded straps etc (£12)
Lead - x 2 (1st one nibbled through) - (£16)
Extending lead to use before recall was established
Slip lead (for short walks ie, house to car, when its not worth putting the whole harness on)
Poo Bags - biodegradeable £5 for 100 or so
Additional crate for car -we got fed up with lifting his original one in and out of the car so now we keep one in there all the time (£40)
Replacement soft bed last week for indoor crate following explosive tummy upset incident in the night (£28)
Towels - no cost as we had some old ones
Doggy shampoo - don't tend to use much, still on our first bottle, only really needed following rolling in poo incidents (yep, Springers love doing that!)
Brush and comb, scissors for grooming (£15) - would be more if we took him to a proper groomer (which we haven't yet!)
Equafleece coat - he goes out in rain or shine and can get cold quickly when we put him in the car to drive home after a wet walk - excellent item (£15)
Equafleece neckerchief - luminous yellow - for the early morning walks in the dark (so pleased the mornings are getting lighter!)
Dog whistle, tennis balls, chewy toys .. probably spent about £40 in the last 9 months.
Twisted knee (2 days before the insurance started!) - vet visit including anti-inflammatory injection £50
Tummy upset - extreme - needing antibiotics, anti sickness and anti acid injections and medication - 2 days off work and over £200 vet bill (thank goodness for insurance - excess is £80 nonetheless).
Long weekend gun dog training residential course £750 (for 2 of us and one dog); obedience lessons £5 per week; puppy socialisation classes at vet £45 for course.
We have wood floors and were very lucky with the speed that Roly picked up housetraining but you may need to factor in additional cleaning requirements during the puppy days.
PHEW!
This is just my quick estimation of what we have spent on Roly during his short life so far!! No doubt there is stuff I've missed, and I know there are things on the list that are not essentials but we have chosen to get/do that have increased our expenditure - but as I said, the decision to get a dog wasn't one we entered into lightly.
Also, because Roly is crate/playpen trained we haven't had any expensive chewing incidents of household items - although he has shown interest in a couple of doorframes and a dining chair - but a wipe over with Olbas oil tends to put him off!
Hope that gives you some idea of the costs - although I appreciate not all of it is essential.
Good luck with your puppy x0 -
You can also put your name down at a breed rescue if you want a specific breed, they also end up in rescue.0
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thanks, that was exactly the kind of list i was after !!
I think the best way to go about this will be getting little bits as we go along, im a member of freecycle and have seen a few things crop up on there every once on a while and will happliy use 2nd hand for the puppy until its reached an age where stuff wont be destroyed !!
mishkaBow Ties ARE cool :cool:"Just because you are offended, doesnt mean you are right" Ricky Gervais0 -
smileypigface wrote: »Monthly Food additions - liver (for homemade liverbread training treats) £5; punnet cherry tomatoes a week, pot bio yogurt a week, box mini bonios a month; box marrowbone biscuits a month, large carrot a day.
Sorry to highjack thread but I too have always fed cherry tomatoes to our golden retriever until the vet pointed out that all types of tomatoes are very poisonous to dogs:eek: she has been eating them for 10 yrs as a daily treat, apparently they can affect the kidneys and more.Fire up the Quattro!0
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