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chocolate lab

we are hoping to have a happy addition to our family in about 4 weeks time:j, i have been on the look out for a black or chocolate lab for a while, and saw a chocolate litter last week- however, i have heard that chocolate labs can be hard to train as they are not as intelligent as black or yellow labs.

have hunted lab forums for info and just wondered if anyone has experience of this?

i saw the pups mum and aunt and both were lovely friendly well behaved girls. am hoping it's not true as have fallen in love with ALL 9 pups (we will only have one though)!!!
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  • RedBern
    RedBern Posts: 1,237 Forumite
    my friend has a chocolate lab and she's as bright as a button. Greedy, will eat everything and anything but well behaved and good fun. Enjoy your puppy!
    Bern :j
  • pboae
    pboae Posts: 2,719 Forumite
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    It's said that chocolates are more difficult to train, more prone to being anxious/nervy, and more prone to health problems (hip and skin). But I've never seen any proof of it so it may just be old wives tales.

    However, all labs are prone to health problems, especially hip dysplacia. A good breeder will have had the dam and sire health checked, eye tested, elbow and hip scored, and will have copies of those certificates available for you to see. Ideally they will also have the certificates of the grand parents and great grand parents as well.

    If they haven't bothered getting them health checked, I wouldn't touch the puppies. The breeder will no doubt tell you their dog's hips are fine, and there is no history of problems in their pups. But they will tell you that whether it is true or not.

    There is a guide here as to what to look for in labs
    http://www.labradorforums.co.uk/breederselection.html
    and it also tells you the sorts of questions you should be asking.

    It's hard to keep a level head when looking for a new dog, but it really is worth spending the time (and money) to get the right dog. Buying a poorly bred dog is just asking for heartache in the future.
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  • cannylass_2
    cannylass_2 Posts: 303 Forumite
    thanks for your replies-all positive so far!!!!:D
    the breeder has shown me the hip scores for the sire and dam and also the eye test certs. they are kennel club accredited breeders, so hopefully all should be ok, though i realise there is no guarantee of fitness for life and some of the hip risk is down to not over exercising in early life etc. thanks pboae for the forum link- weirdly i had already found this excellent website, there is a lot of good advice and tips on there i think (in my general ignorance about this topic);).
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  • nickyhutch
    nickyhutch Posts: 7,596 Forumite
    Good luck with your pup. Am I the only person who opened this thread thinking it was about making chocolate in your own laboratory?
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  • pboae
    pboae Posts: 2,719 Forumite
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    No, there's guarantees, but there are things that can be doen to reduce the risks, and it sounds like the breeder you have found are doing as much as they can. So all credit to them for that!

    Good luck with you pup and post us some pics when you bring it home.
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  • RooBee
    RooBee Posts: 282 Forumite
    Chocolate Labs should be no more difficult to train than either Black or Yellow. However, they have gained a reputation for being more 'difficult' and this is probably down to poor breeding practices when the colour became popular.

    I'm sure you probably know already, but for the benefit of anyone else reading this who may be thinking of getting a Chocolate Lab, Chocolate should not be mated to Chocolate as it is a dilute colour and two dilutes produce poor pigmentation (pink) and a washed out brown colour, not the rick dark brown with dark pigmentation that a Chocolate Lab should be. So, if both parents are chocolate, it is likely that it is not a knowledgable breeder but someone who is trying to cash in on the popularity of the colour by producing an all chocolate litter.

    Incidentally, a KC accredited breeder is not really any guarantee of quality as the breeders are not inspected by the KC and evidence of all relevant, current health tests should be produced to you in respect of the sire and dam....hips scores (below the breed mean which is currently 15), elbow scores (only a score of 0 is acceptable in a breed with such a huge gene pool) and clear eye tests which must have been carried out within the last 12 months. Membership of one of the breed clubs is often a reliable indicator of a responsible breeder as breed club members have to agree to abide by a code of ethics which is generally more stringent that thn KC accredited breeder scheme.

    Hopefully, this breeder fulfils the necessary criteria and you'll soon have your little Chocolate pup :-)
  • linzi_h
    linzi_h Posts: 197 Forumite
    I have a chocolate lab and he is fab! Absolutly off his head! He loves his food, the skirting boards, table legs, chimney breast ..... hehehe

    Hes 10 months old now and hes very well trained really. He knows what looks to give you if he has been bad though but we just have to get passed that. :)

    We seem to have a bit of trouble finding any lab proof toys though as he just kills them all! So if anyone can find any then please let me know :D

    We have had trouble with him though.... hes got hip dysplacia (spelling??) (apparently a common problem) and hes had an op on his left back leg and he might have to have his right back leg done soon but we just have to wait and see. So I reccommend that you get insurance for your new puppy (we are with argos and they paid out very quickly)

    He has also got dandruff but since we have changed his food from iams to james wellbeloved this seems to be getting better.

    I use a site called https://www.labradorforums.co.uk that has a lot of lab info on so if you have not seen it before then give it a go :)

    Hope this has helped a little
  • piglet29
    piglet29 Posts: 6,214 Forumite
    nickyhutch wrote: »
    Good luck with your pup. Am I the only person who opened this thread thinking it was about making chocolate in your own laboratory?

    Nope, I thought the same too!!!!:rotfl: Good luck with your pup op:)
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  • Symbeaux1
    Symbeaux1 Posts: 189 Forumite
    Labs are. by nature, greedy! but it is said that there is no easier dog to train than a greedy one! My friends dog (Staffy-labrador cross ) would do somersaults for me if I asked her to, because she knows I have a noisy container with treats in it for my tiny Jack Russell. And thats because she is greedy.
  • mineallmine
    mineallmine Posts: 3,053 Forumite
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    Are you set on having only a pup? I know someone who got a choc lab from the RSPCA which needed re-homing. They were quite young (and sadly under-fed). Just an idea.

    Found these links on the web near your area of Gloucestershire:
    http://www.dogpages.org.uk/sth-west.htm

    Glos
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