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To bee or not to bee, that is the question?
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se999
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Hi,
Sorry about the awful title, but once I got it into my head I couldn't get rid of it
Currently between houses, and trying to put together action plan for the new house & more importantly the self sufficiency lifestyle.
Read a few books on beekeeping and if we go ahead with beekeeping will have been on a course and got in contact with a local group.
But the basic question is do we keep bees or not?
How have you got on?
How do you sell your excess?
Can it provide an income from honey and beeswax/candles?
Or do I continue planting foxgloves and enjoy watching them, or oriental poppies and see black bumble bees after they've just been coated with black pollen!!
Or do I find a local beekeeper and try to negotiate a deal for a percentage for siting his hive on my property?
Looking forward to your ideas
Edit - Will also go through the system of beekeepers exams gradually if we go ahead.
Sorry about the awful title, but once I got it into my head I couldn't get rid of it

Currently between houses, and trying to put together action plan for the new house & more importantly the self sufficiency lifestyle.
Read a few books on beekeeping and if we go ahead with beekeeping will have been on a course and got in contact with a local group.
But the basic question is do we keep bees or not?
How have you got on?
How do you sell your excess?
Can it provide an income from honey and beeswax/candles?
Or do I continue planting foxgloves and enjoy watching them, or oriental poppies and see black bumble bees after they've just been coated with black pollen!!
Or do I find a local beekeeper and try to negotiate a deal for a percentage for siting his hive on my property?
Looking forward to your ideas

Edit - Will also go through the system of beekeepers exams gradually if we go ahead.
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It certainly sounds interesting! Ive never even thought of it or know that much about it really, but the idea of free honey appeals to me!!
Is there a lot of exams etc? Not that I would ever keep bees myself (im !!!!!! scared of them, along with wasps, spiders, and moths!) but if it sounds like something you want to do, id definatley say go for it!
Jo xx#KiamaHouse0 -
Hi - JW1096, I used to be just like you.
But I learned bees normally only sting if threatened, and that's to protect their hive & who wouldn't attack to protect their family.
People do mistake bees and wasps and hover flies, they're all black and yellow, the real goodies are bees and hover flies (they eat nasty pests in the garden), but wasps aren't too bad, because their favourite food isn't humans so they prefer not to sting you either, they're small bugs and they don't want to waste the energy of stinging you.
I like spiders in the house up to a certain size (I have my tolerance limits), they eat nasty germy flies!!
But with insects everyone has their tolerance limits, but you tend to be able to stretch them once you find they're helping you or saving you money.0 -
Lol! Bees are better than wasps! And spiders - well, I can cope with the teeny ones no bigger than my little fingernail, but we had a massive one in our bedroom the other week and it ran like Linford Christie. I got into bed and spotted it again, so boyf had to get out of bed and dispatch it. It was the size of my palm, I certainly cant cope with those! :eek: And I will still hate Moths for my entire life, the massive ones that attack you with big nasty eyes..... Yuck!
I'd probably be ok with bees though! I like the idea of lovely honey too... Yum!
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Don't know if I can help much really but you can have my 2p's worthMy M & D used to keep bee's and I used to help at extraction time as my mum was a bit allergice - the reason we had to give up in the end as she got stung too many times and would really swell up.
We had 3 hives and got enough honey to last us - (6 of us) for a year - Mum used to make candles as well. We never had any left over to sell but she used to give a few jars away at fetes etc.
Never heard of exams though - lol. Dad got called out occasionally to collect swarms, usually to find they were wasps nests!!
I used to hate extraction time as no matter how much you covered up, there was always one persistant !!!!!! who got in under the netting and got me on the head or face - OW!!!
Happy memories of the centrifuge on the aga and getting the drips - yum.
Wish I could keep a hive or 2 on my flat roof but I don't think they'd thrive here, also don't think the neighbours'd like it.Noli nothis permittere te terere
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Se999. I have sent you a PM about bee keeping. It's a great sideline to a smallholding.
The best way to get into it , is to learn off someone else. I have suggested looking for your local beekeeping association, and thus a local person who will show you the ropes. Most will as they are keen that other people take up the practise.
This will also lead to help with equipment and obtaining your first bees.
They pretty much look after them selves, but your do need to manage them etc.
I get my friend to extract my honey too as he has all the gear for that, saves me buying some expensive equipment for 1 day a year.
There is nothing to compare with fresh honey in the comb....NO to pasty tax We won!!!! Just shows that people power works! Don't be apathetic to your cause!0 -
I am considering this and just wondered as this thread is over 5 years old, do any of you keep bees? Any handy tips you wish to share with us please?0
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I am considering this and just wondered as this thread is over 5 years old, do any of you keep bees? Any handy tips you wish to share with us please?
Wow, redlady, I am glad you notice these things - I hadn't noticed AT ALL how old this thread was - I was just about to reply and say to se999 to pm me :rotfl:
My DH keeps bees. He has five hives and last May we had 35lbs of honey from them. We had fewer in September - probably because the summer was so wet. Lots of beekeepers around here have been having problems because of very cold winters and wet summers - DH has had to feed his constantly through the winter and has even put in warming plates into the hives - like you have for reptiles - which the Old School Beekeepers were very sniffy about, but at least his bees have all survived this winter!
In order to sell your honey, you have to have proper extraction equipment so we couldn't sell any of the honey we have produced thus far because we were using a galvanised extractor which no longer meets food safety standards (where is the roll eyes smilie when you want it????!!). So DH for his birthday got a stainless steel extractor which costs SHED LOADS of money and will certainly wipe out any profit for the next year or so - even though we got it in the sale. We still have plenty of honey for our own use of course, and I still give it to friends, although I have a sneaking suspicion I'm not even supposed to do that. But then, you'll probably all have seen best before dates on commercially produced honey which is just laughable as honey does not go bad - edible honey has been taken out of the pyramids, for crying out loud.
Pauses to breathe...
There are two tins of bits next to the woodburning stove which are there because DH was going to melt down the wax to make candles. They have been there for about six months. Our inglenook is eight feet wide and four feet deep, otherwise I would have flung them at his head before now but as it is I only notice them very occasionally. One of these days I will render the wax to get rid of all the bits of dead bee floating about in it and then I will make candles. Actually, with all this talk on the tough thread about that very subject, I might just do that now. I also want to make furniture polish and I have several recipes for that.... hmmm (lightbulb goes off in head...)
DH mentioned he'd always wanted to keep bees and two days later I saw an advert in the library for a beekeeping course; the following week my DD had a friend to play and I said to the mum, have you got a day off now that Elfine is here - she said, no, her DH was off with his bees; I mentioned my DH had just done a course. Half an hour later, the phone rang: her DH on the phone, could he speak to mine. They yakked for HOURS and then they went off and did bee things together.
Beekeepers LOVE to help other beekeepers. If you're interested, then just let your local beekeeping society know and they will welcome you with open arms.0 -
Hi Claire,
I've been making candles from paraffin and soy wax for over 2 years now, partly as a hobby and partly as self employed for extra income, and would love to have a play around with some beeswax.
If your dh never gets round to making the candles, I'd love to have a play with the wax an share the finished items with youSimilarly, if you need any advice re candle making then let me know
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Cheers CC. I will see whether we have one in my area. It would be great to learn. That said, I may have to ask the OH as he has a blokey down the road from him who sell honey, therefore must have bees!0
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