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Anyone having problems with primus

Hi back in Nov I tried to join primus, the only evidence that something has actually happened is a set up of a dd on my bank account other than that no contact from them just a letter from bt some 6 weeks ago saying i was changing provider anyone else had a problem?
£2400 mb profit so far since 01/11/08

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  • deklan99
    deklan99 Posts: 637 Forumite
    We also joined in November, had nothing at all from either BT or Primus but the DD has been set up. No bill as yet, definitely made calls evening and weekends which don't appear on BT so presume it's working.
    Did e-mail Primus couple of days ago - no reply so far.
    “I look like Spiderman at a funeral”~ Karl Pilkington
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    You can check if the service is active by using BT's Charge Advice service:

    Lift handset and dial *411# and listen for message. Replace handset.

    Make a UK 01/02 call (preferably evening or weekend so, if you're still on BT, it'll only cost 4½p). If the exchange automatically calls you back immediately afterwards with the approx cost of the call, you're still on BT. If there's no immediate call back, the call has gone (free) over Primus.

    You can switch off BT Charge Advice with #411#

    There is no need to use the 1280 prefix when switching Charge Advice on or off (even after Primus has gone live).
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • JohalaReewi
    JohalaReewi Posts: 2,614 Forumite
    Best to phone Primus to find out (24 hoiur 0800 number so it's free). Emails seem to be hit and miss with them.
  • deklan99
    deklan99 Posts: 637 Forumite
    According to Primus our first bill is due on the 17th of this month - joining date 14th Nov 07.
    As an aside having a CPS provider knocked off the free caller display on our line so we got charged the £1.75.
    Apparently some new BT accounting system can't cope with the possibility that you might make some BT calls to qualify for free caller display.
    Went round in circles for a while - email to Ben sorted it out - 16 orders on my account for caller display followed by 16 cancellations due to CPS.
    Don't know if its my line or what but nothing seems simple - *411# still comes up with "not supported on this line" and according to one of Ben's team my exchange had no record of our account being active at all.
    Never mind, seems to be ok now.
    “I look like Spiderman at a funeral”~ Karl Pilkington
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    deklan99 wrote: »
    As an aside having a CPS provider knocked off the free caller display on our line so we got charged the £1.75.

    Apparently some new BT accounting system can't cope with the possibility that you might make some BT calls to qualify for free caller display.
    I've been doing it for ages without problems.

    See http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=5022907&postcount=2
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • deklan99
    deklan99 Posts: 637 Forumite
    Heinz wrote: »
    I've been doing it for ages without problems.

    See http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=5022907&postcount=2

    Well Heinz, followed your guide to the letter (saving heaps) joining Primus as I said in November.
    November BT bill included £1.75 "Charges for Calling Feature Pack" while my Calling Features had Caller Display = free so I queried the charge.
    This then caused the meltdown in the system as it decided that because I had CPS then I didn't qualify for the free caller display and so on.
    Problem hasn't been entirely solved -Jason from Ben's team even phoned on Xmas Eve at 1700 hrs outlining how he had fudged things so we didn't get charged.
    He was extremely surprised when the exchange (Openreach?) said I must be getting free calls because my number wasn't active - he had access to all my account details from a previous matter.
    We only returned to BT in July after being LLUd by Talktalk so we got a new number then so whether this number is on some new system I don't know but nothing seems straightforward.
    “I look like Spiderman at a funeral”~ Karl Pilkington
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    Yes, I think the 'ages' word in my post may be the key here - I've heard those with an account number starting 'GB' (i.e. those on BT's new WLR3 system) are experiencing all sorts of problems whereas those on the old system (my A/C number starts 'EA') aren't.

    If I didn't know BT was privatised years ago, I'd have sworn WLR3 was a government computer system judging by the number of problems they appear to have with it!
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • deklan99
    deklan99 Posts: 637 Forumite
    Yup, our account does indeed start GB - from various dealings with Ben and his team it appears there are two systems running in tandem and for whatever reason they don't seem to be cross linked. That roughly means neither system knows what the other is doing.
    “I look like Spiderman at a funeral”~ Karl Pilkington
  • help looking to switch to primus but what is all this CPS stuff about? We do currently have caller display free from BT do we need to remove this?
    thanks
  • deklan99
    deklan99 Posts: 637 Forumite
    CPS is Carrier Pre Select which means your outgoing calls get routed through a different provider other than BT.
    Primus is a CPS provider.
    Looks like 99% of people shouldn't have a problem with free Caller Display and a CPS provider such as Primus but our new line has been a constant battle with things going awry.
    As Heinz mentioned earlier BT accounts which start GB are on a new WLR3 system (no idea what it means) and seem to attract all sorts of problems.
    Generally you shouldn't have to do anything with Caller Display just continue to make a couple of calls a month through BT to qualify (think there is a difference between monthly and quarterly billing how many calls you need to make).
    I seem to be the exception that proves the rule.
    “I look like Spiderman at a funeral”~ Karl Pilkington
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