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good energy saving lightbulb - does it exist?
mb2_2
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does anyone know of any energy saving lightbulbs that are *actually* able to be as bright as 100w regular lightbulbs?
also, does anyone know anywhere to get lightbulbs (energy saving or otherwise) that put out a true white light? (rather than yellow of regular ones) .. i seem to remember the 'innovations' catalogues used to have these at some point, but i can't find any on their site.
also, does anyone know anywhere to get lightbulbs (energy saving or otherwise) that put out a true white light? (rather than yellow of regular ones) .. i seem to remember the 'innovations' catalogues used to have these at some point, but i can't find any on their site.
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I regularly see Daylight bulbs in craft shops - they tend to be between £2 & £4 each depending on the shop - but the light is as the name of the bulb suggests quite close to 'daylight'
As for Energy savers that are actually as bright as the claimed wattage, I picked some up in Carrefour in Belgium that are 20W fluo, and at least as bright as a 100W tungsten.... heck of a way to go for lightbulbs though
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In many cases it helps if you say where you are - someone with local knowledge might be able to give local specifics rather than general advice0 -
There are some energy saving bulbs that "warm up" to a brightness. But I've seen one of these smash into hundreds of pieces, just like that, so I've never felt brave enough to try one.
You can get "daylight" bulbs from Readycut, the rug people.spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0 -
My main problem with energy saving lightbulbs is that the failure rate is far earlier than claimed, so they are costing significantly more than ordinary lightbulbs, all said and done. I'm close to abadoning them.
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I can't find a normal size one. I can't use them in my lamps cos they stick out the top and look really stupid.
Anyone know where I can get a normal sized energy saver light bulb?
CheersIf it was easy, everyone would do it!0 -
The problem with energy saving bulbs is they need the lenght of tubes to get the wattage up. Just before I left my job in the lighting department Philips had brought out some new and cheaper energy saving bulbs. The looked like a normal bulb but a little bit bigger (but they made the normal bulbs a bit smaller anyway!)
With the new ones it took about 10-20 seconds for it to get to its full brighness.
I have had a few people come back with energy saving bulbs saying they did not last as long as blah blah blah (they actually write the date on in pencil!)
I have never seen/heard of an energy saving bulb exploding (they actually implode first, am I boring you yet??)
As for getting the 100watts of light i think from memory you would need about an 15-20 watt energy saving bulb to get 100watts. IMO the energy savers now give out a good light not too yellow.
As for true white light it depends what you mean. Natural sunlight is colourless, but as it goes throught the atmosphere it gets a blue tinge to it (once had a disagreement with a woman about this) so if you want a sunligth bulb AKA a day ligth bulb then they are the blue looking bulbs. I have only seen them upto 60W in normal bulbs. You can get then in energy savers but they are usually for craft lamps ahve have non retrofit bulbs (I think that is what they are called)
But they have odd fittings so u cant use them in a normal lamp.
Daylight bulbs are usually used to get a good colour rendering out of whatever u r looking at, so that why u get them in craft lamps for sewing etc.
If you what white light then it is Halogen you want to go for. These get very very hot! about 300c I seem to remember They are not energy saving, more expensive to buy but should last longer unless u dim them.
But they give out the whitest light of any bulbs. Also halogen are very direct lights, only about a 20 degree angle of light so they are spots you dont get overall lighting like you do with a normal or energy saver bulb.
(wow what a big post sope it all makes sense!!!)JeremyMarried 9th May 20090 -
Jem8472 wrote:Just before I left my job in the lighting department Philips had brought out some new and cheaper energy saving bulbs... I have had a few people come back with energy saving bulbs saying they did not last as long as blah blah blah (they actually write the date on in pencil!)...am I boring you yet??)
I'm sorry to say that your message does nothing to allay my fear that the bulb manufacturers will make any old claim, and don't care if it's true or not. This has cost me dearly, duped into buying £3.95+ low-energy bulbs which last typically 2 years (not the claimed 10 years or whatever) compared to standard 40p tungsten bulbs which lasted more like 5-6 years. Do you not believe me and others when we say the bulbs "did not last as long as blah blah blah"?
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is this personal experience that a 20w energy-saving bulb will be equal to (or better than) a tungsten 100w [are all 20w the same? if not, which are reccomended?], or just what the industry rate them as? as i have had 25w (?) energy saving lightbulbs which were supposed to be equivilant of 100w; but they bared matched up to a 60w bulb in reality.. i assume tech has advanced since then..
also can dimmers be used with these daylight bulbs? (but not halogens or energy saving right?)0 -
TBH I did not believe many customers becasue u soon learn that they eill say anythgin to get their money back or whatever they want, a bit like you example about the manufacturers claims.
I must admit there are good and bad makes. I always found philips bulbs to be good, other ones we used to stock were not as good. Also depends where you use them and for how long.
You should not dim energy savers, apparently you can according to some customers but they dont last asa long. You can put them on electronic swithches, or PIR sensors. But if they are in your living room, dining room etyc they should last around about how long they quote, rember trades description (i think it falls under that) and all that, the makers cant quote that they will last forever when they clearly dont.
Also if u put them in a room that you go in and out of a lot so the light is being turned on and off a lot they wont last the full lifetime hourse because the starting motor etc will ware out.JeremyMarried 9th May 20090 -
Jem8472
You make some valid points. To confirm my situation, the expensive low energy bulbs which lasted only about 2 years were Osram, although other brands have faired badly, too. I have given them a very easy life. I don't use dimmers and they are on a time clock to come on for about 5 hours continuous running each day. To be fair, an older, bulkier Philips bulb has lasted much, much longer.0 -
mb2 the newer ones should be a bit better with light output but about 20w should be around 100w. But they will give you a different spread of light if they are the ones that u can see the tubes. if they are the ones that look like normal bulbs then the light spread should not be to different.
daylight bulbs if they are normal filament bulb then yes you can dim them.
If I advised you in my lighting department I would not suggest using them on a timeclock for reasons I have mentioned above ^^^JeremyMarried 9th May 20090
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