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trets77 · 10 August 2007 at 7:21PM

LAS VEGAS

.. is not like other places you might have been, where the Hotels are near to the attractions . in Vegas the Hotels are the attractions. at the heart of each on is a casino , but if you think thats all there is to the place , you are sorely mistaken .

in a Family Fortunes style question if you asked 100 people something they associate with Las Vegas , I'd bet you my house the top answer would be "gambling". yet there is so much more. ask people what they want from a holiday and you might get answers like , relaxation , nightlife, outdoor activities , shopping , adventure ,great eating or just plain lazing around in the sun.

Las Vegas provides all of this and more , yet all some people can see is gambling. if Vegas does have a base not fully covered it would be history. a common gripe about many Holiday destinations is that tourism has ruined the real location. there was no real town to ruin in Vegas, pre 1940 it was a dusty almost empty desert highway , today it is home to 16 out of 20 of the worlds largest hotels, was visited by over 38 million visitors in 2006 , and has a population fast approaching 2 million.

This page cannot hope to cover everything , but hopefully should point you towards some good money saving tips

How to get there

Las Vegas is 5235 miles from London

you could book a package from pretty much any online or high street travel agent that would include flights and hotels. however this is a money saving site so we try to beat those prices by booking things separately .

only three airlines at the time of writing operate direct flights to Las Vegas , and only one of those operates flights everyday.

Virgin fly everyday from Gatwick airport . BMI currently fly from Manchester on Tuesdays , Thursdays and Sundays in summer and Thursdays and Sundays only in winter. Thomas Cook fly Wednesdays and Saturdays in summer and Wednesdays only in Winter , again from Manchester. Max jet was operating flights but went bust xmas 2007

should you consider flying indirect there are many choice available , and far too many to cover here, but please be sure you know what you are letting yourself in for . flying times direct are 10 hours plus . you can probably add between 4-6 hours on top of that flying indirect .

Getting a good fare is not straightforward . Factors that can see you getting that good fare are
Flexibility
be prepared to travel mid week not at the weekends like everyone else.
Preparation
look into you flight upto 11 months before you fly if you can.
Time of year
most Brits like to take holidays after June and before October .
Research
asking advice to regular posters on this site .
Airline Sales and Offers
airlines know when people start thinking about booking trips , keeping very regular tabs on the airlines websites for sales and fare reductions is a good idea. also some airlines offer reduced fares for frequent flyer's and members of there flying clubs.
Risk
great fares can be had if you a prepared to wait till very close to your chosen dates.

Where to stay

The Strip is where most visitors tend to stay , a few casinos worth staying at are slightly off strip and usually have a free shuttle bus to and from the strip.the other main area is called Downtown, where the standard of accommodation is lower ( and cheaper ) than most of the strip.

if your a first time visitor you really should try to stay on the strip if your budget allows . you can then check out the other areas to see if you would consider them on a return visit.

A common posted question on the old Las Vegas thread was "where is nice but reasonably priced ". It is hard question to answer. none of the main strip hotels are likely to make it on to a " Hotels from Hell" show on ITV, but you do get what you pay for. a good starting place is to look at the following link

http://www.vegas.com/resorts/

anything with a Four star rating is unlikely to displease the Vast majority of people . but a fair few people will probably be happy with something in the Three star bracket and consider the hotel to be nice.

There is no set price for the majority of hotel rooms . Gone are the days when Casino's would offer rooms at a loss to get people through the door, at 90% + average occupancy they don,t have too. rooms are priced on a supply and demand basis . if the hotel is selling rooms at a high price why discount? but if they are not then there is no money to be made from empty rooms.

prices for your hotel room can vary day to day , let alone week to week. Normal Friday and Saturday night prices are always more expensive than normal weekday prices ( upto 3 times as expensive is not unusual) . other things that can have a big impact on the price you pay to stay at your preferred location are.

Big sporting events
Super bowl weekend in January for example or the Rodeo finals at the start of December. also Big Boxing matches

Large Conventions
Events like the The Consumer electronics show , can have 150,000 attending . here is a calendar to try to avoid large convention dates http://www.lasvegastourism.com/conventions_jan.htm

USA public holidays
1 Jan New Year's Day.
21 Jan Martin Luther King Day.
18 Feb Presidents' Day.
26 May Memorial Day.
4 Jul Independence Day.
1 Sept Labor Day.
13 Oct Columbus Day.
11 Nov Veterans' Day.
27 Nov Thanksgiving Day.
25 Dec Christmas Day.

also special events like Halloween etc can push prices up.

Popular times
a lot of this has to do with the weather . July and August are often disliked because of the intense heat. January and December are also quite months ( pools often close down in October till March ) .

finding a good deal usually only requires a small amount of searching. Booking through the Hotels direct has BIG advantages . first you are cutting out the middleman . second all of the hotels operate the same booking policy, that you only need to pay your first nights rate as a deposit and the deposit is 100% refundable if you cancel upto 72 hours before you stay. this is generally the rule with all hotel offers but there are exceptions , some Luxor offers recently have been NO REFUND offers and The Rivera charges a small cancellation fee at the time of writing. be sure to check all terms and Conditions before you book to be sure .Offers can become available any time , but generally start appearing 12 weeks before your dates

There are several websites that list offers and discounts for hotels.
http://www.vegas-promotions.com/ is a good place to start as it lists all offers in date and/or hotel order. all the links will take you directly to Casinos own website for booking. The site does not carry Harrahs owned properties like Paris or Caesars though . other sites to check out are

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=60&catid=63&threadid=704925

http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13

http://www.openvegas.com/vegas/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17

http://www.vegashotelspecial.com/

http://www.harrahs.com/hot-deals/

http://www.vegas-hotels-online.com/

please be careful about posting on these boards though as some are for the posting of deals only , not for questions on deals etc.

Arrival

McCarren Airport is right next to the strip . Shuttle Buses operate to all the main casinos . A Taxi is by far the most popular way to get to your hotel though. you can find a good estimate of the fare to your Hotel here http://www.taxi.state.nv.us/FaresFees.htm
if your hiring a car you will find directions clearly posted at the airport.
If you really want to arrive in style why not rent a Limo from the airport , they cost around $50 a hour. If you share with someone off your flight it may work out a much as a Taxi

Check in
you can check in from the airport at some Casinos.
when you check in the clerk will will assign you a room . some rooms of the same class are more desirable than others. Strip Views are always more sought after , as are corner rooms or rooms overlooking a casino attraction ( the Bellagio fountains for example) . also you try to get a room that is not situated directly next to a elevator.you should try to do as much research on the rooms within your casino as possible to find out what to ask for

Cash is King is Las Vegas.. the following site gives advice on how to try and obtain a upgrade or a better positioned room by tipping the clerk.

http://www.frontdesktip.com/

http://www.thetwentydollartrick.com/

regardless of if you tip of not , if your not happy with the room , complain and get one you are happy with.

Getting around
If hiring a car you will have the choice of parking it yourself at the hotel or using ( for a fee) the Valet service. The strip is very busy at most times traffic wise .

Taxis are good option for speed and convenience , but cost more than the other methods of getting around the strip. also you cannot flag them down either , you have to get them called for you from the Casino or designated pick up areas .

The Deuce is the local 24 hour bus service and is pretty reasonable.

$5 is all it costs for a 24 hour pass up and down the strip. be warned though the buses fill up at popular mid strip locations and make it hard to get on at busy times.

The Monorail runs from MGM Grand to The Sahara .

full list of prices can be found here http://www.lvmonorail.com/ride/ticket_info/. while it is certainly fast, clean and comfortable ,the downside is that you have to walk through which ever casino you get off at. Casinos are designed to be difficult places to escape , so it can be a trek to get back to the strip. if your going less than a mile your probably better off walking.

Strip Trolleys are cheap at $2.50 a ride or $4.50 for a all day pass. however they don't run 24 hours , are not the most comfy ride , and tend to drop you at the back and sides of casinos http://www.striptrolley.com

There are also 2 free to ride Monorails . One connects The Mirage with Treasure Island. The Other one connects The Excalibur , Luxor and Mandalay Bay. This one has interesting set up . If you catch it at The Excalibur it does not stop at the Luxor heading south. The Casino owners don't want you skipping Mandalay Bay , so you it only stops at the Luxor on the return North journey .
Eating
There are hundreds upon hundreds of places to eat in Las Vegas. It would be impossible to scratch the surface in terms of recommendations on this Post.

Las Vegas provides pretty much every price range of food , from practically every type of world cuisine. from headline super pricey Celebrity chefs to cheap pile em high buffets ( and everything in between ) , you will find it in Vegas. so where do you choose to eat ??
Your casino will almost certainly have more than a few places to eat at. But bare in mind the casino likes to make a Guest who is gambling a lot , keep Gambling and if that means free meals in it's restaurants ..so be it. if your in one of these, your going to have pay rent for the space your taking up. hence in house restaurants are generally more expensive than Restaurants not on site , who must attract customers by either great prices , great food or Both . a good resource for dining options is a well researched guide book . i recommend "The Unofficial Guide To Las Vegas " is gives great tips on dining. you may even find a few phrase borrowed from it written here .

There are still great deals to be had on food if your prepared to search them out. although some deals come and go , a few have been running for many years and should be around when you visit.

$6.95 steak dinner at Ellis Island
It's long been a table topper in Las Vegas Advisor's top 10 Vegas Values. a 10 oz Steak with salad , beans and choice of Potato . it's isn't actually on the menu though , you have to ask for it.available 24/7

$10.95 steak dinner at Gold Coast
again available 24/7 , this meal includes Soup or Salad, Onion rings , Garlic bread , Beans and Glass of Draft Beer.

Shrimp Cocktail 99c at Golden Gate
served from 11am till 2am

Pasta at California Casino
at the Pasta Pirate Restaurant

Breakfast Specials $1.49
served at Wild Wild West , Wildfire , Gold rush and Magic star. 12 am till 11 am

Steak and Eggs $3.29
at Arizona Charlie's Decatur . 24/7

The most famous of dining options in Las Vegas are the Buffets . for a set price you can eat and drink as much as you want from the food selection available . Again you can choose from the Bargain to the expensive. don,t expect to find a small selection of food , Most buffets offer a huge choice of dishes. The Cravings Buffet in the Mirage for Example has many different stations from around the world , where food can also be cooked to order. Nearly all the Strip casinos have a buffet and it is unlikely you are either going to feel short changed or not find something you enjoy at nearly all of them. From the many many reviews i have read ( and visited) a few buffets come up time and time again with top marks. they are

Planet Hollywood ( previously The Aladdin ) Spice market Buffet.
Bellagio Buffet
Paris Le Village Buffet
Mirage Cravings Buffet
Ballys Big Kitchen
Rio Carnival world Buffet
Dishes @ T.I

You will probably be pleased with the quality of most of the other Buffets on the Strip , however like the above certain Buffets Constantly get Bad reviews . there isn't,t enough time to get around the one's that get good reviews , let alone wasting time with ones that get regularly moaned about IMO. The buffets that most get moaned about are.
Circus Circus
Excalibur
Sahara

Drinking and Nightlife
Alcohol is very easy to get hold of in Vegas. whats more free Alcohol is given out if you meet 2 simple requirements within a Casino.
Rule 1 you playing any casino game
Rule 2 are not in a state where they cannot serve you

meet these and obtaining a free drink is a simple as saying " one large G&T please". the definition of playing is simply participating in any gambling at the Casino. Cocktail waitress's make regular rounds asking anyone playing if they would like a drink. as long as your not asking for super expensive bubbly the Casino will happily give you a drink to keep you playing. Free is little misleading though , the waitress relies on tips , so she is unlikely to be in a rush to ask or serve you again if you don't tip her . $1 a drink is acceptable , but you should tip a bit more if you have a group order or will be using her services regular. if you do not seem to be on the waitress's radar by all means search one out .

given that the minimum age for gambling and drinking are the same ( 21) , ordering drinks from bars etc can be a little more hassle. Most establishments ask for ID of anyone not coming up for their bus pass. so if you plan on ordering any Alcohol , always have some photo ID with you. Your passport will be fine , but a photo driving license is better , as it is easier to carry and not a disaster if your lose it , while tipsy.

you won't be surprises to learn ,that Nigh life in Vegas is very diverse. most Casino will have at least one Nightclub and several bars as well as lounges. off site there hundreds upon hundreds of bars , nightclubs, Strip clubs etc. if you can think of it , chances are it is here somewhere. Nightclubs are most defiantly not my area expertise so i only know what others have written . a lot of the more trendy places will have door and dress policy's so you should research ahead if you planing on visiting a particular club. entrance fees are also quite varied.
if you are planning on a lot of club hoping a good investment is supposed to be the front of line passes offered by www.vegas.com. not all clubs are included but , one of these could save you hours of queuing.

Shows

On any given night in Las Vegas you will have at least a dozen top quality shows to choose from , not to mention many other less well known or high profile shows all around town. The bad news is they are not as cheap as they once were. The Good news is that you will probably pay less than most other places and the hike in ticket prices has produced a big jump in the quality of shows.

If your very keen to see a certain show and want best available seats then you can book ahead from either the Shows/Casinos own website or Through a agent like Ticketmaster. you pick the tickets up from the Theater Box office on the day. be warned though you pay a premium for this . Ticketmaster prices need to have Tax and fees added before you have your total.
If you are prepared to wait until you get there big savings can be made.

there are 2 Half price ticket outlets on the strip. Tickets2nite (http://www.tickets2nite.com/) and Tix4tonite . (http://www.tix4tonight.com/) which offer tickets for the same night upto half price.

each have many of the same shows , but one will have shows the other does not. checking out both is easy though as there is a outlet of each a short walk north of the MGM grand ( one under the Big Coke bottle and one at M+M world) .
after you get your voucher at shows that have assigned seating , you can proceed directly to the shows Box office to get your tickets and seats booked.
your likely to find more choice of shows on weekdays rather then weekends , and some shows never seem to appear at these outlets.

Shopping
Like dining and Gambling there is plenty of choice for retail therapy at every budget.

From Cheap and tacky snow globes at Bonanza the worlds biggest souvenir/Gift store to Boutique shopping and Ferrari /Maserati dealership at the Wynn, once again you find it all in the Las Vegas area
The Strip has several big shopping malls .they biggest are The Forum @ Caesars Palace , Miracle Mile @ Planet Hollywood , Grand Canal Shoppe @Venetian and The Fashion show mall
you will also find shopping at Mandalay Bay , Mirage , TI , Bellagio , MGM Grand , as well as most of the the other large strip casinos . you will find a wide range of stores here. some big chains ,other independent.
For Bargain hunters and Money savers there are several outlet malls close to the strip , where you can find large discounts on high street names. they all have similar names they are ,
Las Vegas premium outlet which is just north of the strip
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=58
Las Vegas outlet center which is south of Mandalay Bay
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=61
Las Vegas fashion outlet which despite it's address is a good 30-40 Min's drive south of the strip in Primm
http://www.fashionoutletlasvegas.com/
to be honest on my last visit to the latter two i found pretty much the same shops in each, so you can probably just visit one . you can catch a bus to the las Vegas fashion outlet from the MGM grand for a small fee, and you will get a discount book for using this service.

dmg24 · 10 August 2007 at 7:23PM

eh?!

sorry, am in naughty schoolgirl mode, when someone tells me not to do something ... x

trets77 · 23 December 2007 at 3:15PM

Attractions
you will find something unique in most of the Strip hotels to try and lure you in. some are free , others are worthy of visit in their own right.

Top free attractions :
The Bellagio Fountains (above) are easily the best free attraction on the strip. every half hour from 3pm weekdays and 12pm weekends and then every 15 mins after 8pm , you will get to see the fountains perform to various different tracks. it is still one of those shows that can make you stop and watch , even if you have seen them a lot of times. a good place to see them is from the top of Eiffel tower experience @ Paris .

The Sirens of TI ( formally known as the pirate ship battle @ Treasure Island) is a pretty cheesy but fun attraction. It was updated when Treasure Island became the hipper ( and a lot less family friendly ) TI . The old British Navy of the first show always lost anyway , at least now the cast lose to a much prettier bunch of scantly clad females. to get a good view get to viewing area a good 30 mins ( 45 mins on busy weekends ) before the show starts . In Summer the show times are 7pm, 8:30pm, 10pm and 11:30pm. In Winter 5:30pm, 7pm, 8:30pm and 10pm

The Volcano at The Mirage "erupts" every 15 mins after 6pm

it is amusing enough from the side walk, but probably won't temp you back for a 2nd visit. it's been around for quite a while now so you should have little trouble getting a good spot to see it.

The Lion Habitat inside the MGM Grand is always popular . it's Basically just a perspex area slap bang in the Middle of the Casino where the lions hang out from 11am to 10pm.

The Masquerade Show in the sky plays daily at every hour from 3 p.m., 4 p.m., 5 p.m., 6:30 p.m., 7:30 p.m., 8:30 p.m. and 9:30 p.m inside the Rio casino
The Rio is a little ways off the strip so has to offer something a bit special to lure visitors over . it basically involves a lot of brightly lit floats weaving their way around the roof of the Casino , with plenty of Performers and dancers doing their thing on the floor.

It is a high energy performance , that never seems to leave onlookers disappointed.

The Fremont street experience is Downtowns attempt to compete with the strip. it is a huge roof canopy that cover all of Fremont street and at night transforms into a spectacular light and sound show.

It was a joint venture by all the casino's it covers and they all turn of their own lights when it is on. shows are every hour from 8pm till midnight and is a different show in each slot. it generally stops 90% of pedestrians on the street ,.with everyones eyes skyward , you can weave around them if your in a hurry.
Top pay Attractions
Shark Reef @ Mandalay Bay is a huge Aquarium filled with a large variety of sea life ( and more than a few sharks ).

You get Audio wands that will fill you in on each tank ect. It reasonably priced at $15.95 and is open 10am -11pm

The Stratosphere counts as a attraction in it's own right ( epically if you want a stunning high up view of Las Vegas and the surrounding area) . it also has four rides on the top of it .Standing at 1149 feet it is twice the size ( currently) of the next largest building in Nevada. The Observation deck costs $10.95 to enter and the rides $9 a piece ( although there are discounts to be had for buying all at once) . X-SCREAM (below) is the only one i have been on ( my nerves could not have dealt with anymore after being on it ). here is a good you tube video of it http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=YtU716sQoRI

if you want to thrills these rides are certainly where you want to be heading

The tower also has a restaurant inside it.The tower is Open from 10am till 1am (2am weekends) daily .Despite being at the far north end of the strip, it is a popular attraction so you may find a queue to get in
Other Roller coasters on the Strip are The Manhattan Express @New York New York , Speed @ Sahara , and the Canyon Blaster @ Circus Circus. all good rides but the Canyon Blaster is the only ride worth mentioning inside The Adventure-dome @ Circus Circus , unless you have kids in tow .just buy a ticket for the Canyon Blaster and skip the rest of the park. Circus Circus also has free circus performers inside the casino but they don't really warrant a specific visit , but are diverting enough IMO if you happen to be around. (tip: you can often find upto half price discounts on the above coaters in the many of the free magazines)

Siegfried & Roy's Secret Garden @ The Mirage is my Favorite attraction. here you find the worlds largest collection of white Lions and Tigers , as well a Dolphin Habitat .

Seigfried & Roy were The Mirage's headliners until Roy was severely injured onstage by one of the White Tigers. it is Unknown if they will ever perform again , but the Big Cats you can see here are their's and are magnificent creatures to see up close.

The Dolphins don,t perform Tricks but are rather encouraged to exercise ( which amounts to much the same thing) . you can also view the Dolphins from underwater observation room. open 10am to 7pm Daily priced $15

The Eiffel Tower experience is about the only one i have yet still to Visit. The not to scale replica sits half in and out of the Paris Casino. it too has a restaurant at the top.

The Tower can only hold a limited number of people so you have to wait for others to come down before being allowed up. A good way to Bypass the queues is apparently to eat at the tower restaurant and then visit the tower while up there .open 9.30 am till 12.30am daily.

last but by no means least you can see one the greatest sights on the planet while in Las Vegas , The Grand Canyon.
but first be aware it is not that close to Las Vegas . Road Travel times are around 10 hours for a round trip . from Las Vegas you can buy many different excursions . Helicopter, plane and Bus , or you could of course drive out there yourself.

by far the most popular method is a Helicopter trip . there are several operators out of McCarren airport.

http://www.heliusa.com/
http://www.helicoptour.com/
http://www.papillon.com/
http://www.maverickhelicopter.com/company2.html

it is not a cheap trip by any means ( budget on least £200 per person for a standard flight ) , but is defiantly the once in a lifetime experience promised. you can sometimes find discounts and coupons for the above operators in the free magazines you can pick up around the strip. all of the above will pick you up from your hotel .
you will also probably get to see the Hoover dam if you choose a helicopter tour
you might also try booking through a broker. a MSE member saved over $100 on a Heliusa trip by booking through http://www.viator.com/?pref=02&aid=g2747 and using a promo code (FABSAV) .

You can also find many trips costing a lot less by choosing to fly from airports closer to the Canyon.
Getting married
Las Vegas is the wedding capital of the world , hosting over 120,000 weddings each year( you can count mine in with the 2006 numbers ) .

hell the Little white wedding chapel was good enough for Britney and erm what's his name then it was good enough for us. you won't be surprised to learn that you can have your pick of type of wedding. big or small, cheap or lavish, formal novelty the choice is yours.

there ain't nothing to tying the knot in Vegas , all you need is wedding certificate from Clark county wedding office and be eligible ( http://www.vegas.com/weddings/legal.html) . you can than hop down to any local chapel ect and be married there and then.Of course you can find many company's in Vegas who help you organize everything , no matter what size wedding you want.

Gambling
Did you think I'd forgotten this subject ? one thing is for sure you will not forget how much gambling there is in Las Vegas when you go.
In the film "Casino" Robert de Niro's Character gives a Little speech

"what do you think we're doing out
here in the middle of the desert?
It's all this money. This is the end
result of all the bright lights and
the comped trips, of all the champagne
and free hotel suites, and all the
broads and all the booze. It's all
been arranged just for us to get
your money. That's the truth about
Las Vegas"

When the Mirage Casino opened back in 1989 , it was known the only way it could stay open and meet it's running costs was to clear $1 million a day !

Nearly 20 years on and the newest Casino on the block The Wynn needs to make in the region of $15 million to keep it's doors open i was told. i bet it doesn't sell 10 of those Ferrari's a day .Gambling profit is what feeds Vegas.

"The only sure way to make a profit in a casino is too own it " Steve Wynn

So Can you make a profit by playing in Las Vegas . In the short term ..yes . In the long term ....no.

You can find endless sources of information on Gambling ,( Las Vegas or otherwise ) on the net or in books ect. but one indisputable fact is that all games played against the casino have a house advantage built in. for some games is could be as little as 1% for others well into double figures. This advantage can be overcome in the short term , but eventually it will win out . it is a Mathematical certainty.

allow me to quote Robert De Niro again .

"In the casino, the cardinal rule is
to keep them playing...
..and keep them coming back. The
longer they play, the more they lose.
In the end, we get it all."

let's not get to downbeat though. Playing can be fun ...lots of fun . some people see their loses as the price of enjoying themselves . if you can do the same armed with the facts of the game , then you can go ahead and enjoy yourself too. just never think you could be the one who can beat the casino in the end . you won't .

if you want to try and walk away a winner , your best strategy is to see you play as a excursion into enemy territory . The longer you are behind enemy lines , the more of your cash is going to picked off by the superior force that is the Casino and it's house advantage. but a smash and grab raid might see you walk away the victor.

A few years ago a Guy named Ashley Revell sold everything he owned and put all the cash on one spin of the roulette wheel. while not suggesting you the same ( he won by the way) he knew that this was the best possible chance of doubling his money by playing a casino game . you can read the story here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3618883.stm

The thing he had most trouble with in doing this was finding a Casino to take his bet. they would have been quite happy for him to gamble his £75,000 a little bit at a time ( as their house advantage would see them end up the winners eventually) , but to bet it all in one go , they said no. doing the same will not get you too much enjoyment, but should try to limit the number of bets you make , if you have aspirations of coming out ahead.If you do plan on doing any Gambling in Las vegas herea re some good tips.
1. Have a budget and stick to it . set aside a amount of money are prepared to lose and once it has gone ...it's gone . do not gamble even more money trying to get it back.
2. If you are lucky enough to find you self with a big win or up a reasonable amount, ..know when to walk away, if you want to keep it .
3.Don't play tipsy. those free drinks mentioned earlier are there to loosen you up , make poor decisions and gamble recklessly .
4. Join the Players club. Every casino has one, and you usually get freebies just for signing up. whats more it puts you on the Casino's mailing list for future offers, and will give you comps if you gamble enough.

Comps are what the casino rewards or gives you back. there is a old poker saying " you can shear a sheep many times but skin him only once". If the casino just took your money , you would be unlikely to come back. by offering incentives like free shows, meals ect, it keeps you returning , enabling it take more of your money.

just about the only game where the casino has no advantage is the game where it does play against you...poker. most of the Main strip casinos have a poker room , where you can play for cash or enter tournaments . the casino does not offer their service for free , but rather charges rent int the form of rakes and fees. for anything related to poker in Las vegas see this site. http://www.allvegaspoker.com/

hope something within this guide has proved helpful to you . Please post any questions you want answering , the people who regularly post here will be happy to try and assist.

please contact me if any info on this guide is incorrect or has become out of date.

Infidel · 23 December 2007 at 6:13PM

Strapped · 23 December 2007 at 6:40PM

The second largest industry - getting married!

trets77 · 28 December 2007 at 6:01PM

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budgetflyer · 28 December 2007 at 6:13PM

Infidel wrote: »

Thats Temple de la sagrada familia in BARCELONA if Im not mistaken.
Whats that to do with Vegas ? or are they building one there too ?

nelly_2 · 29 December 2007 at 9:29AM

budgetflyer wrote: »

Thats Temple de la sagrada familia in BARCELONA if Im not mistaken.
Whats that to do with Vegas ? or are they building one there too ?

They may as well cos they got venice and paris allready

RichTeaBiscuit · 29 December 2007 at 11:20AM

Can i just add - Anyone looking for a escorted half day trip out to Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon etc.. try these guys: http://www.adventurephototours.com/ our guide, Aaron provided 2 great half days of off road adventures and I got some stunning photos.
Well recommended.

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