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Nightmare Migration from Wanadoo
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Curry_Queen
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I don't quite know where to start with all this as I am so angry and completely stressed out over events of the last few days, although to be honest I'm not entirely sure who exactly is at fault over all this, although I suspect the buck lies with Wanadoo.
Maybe it's best I start at the beginning and try to relay events as they happened and hope someone knowledgeable in this sort of thing can help me figure out who I should be going after for recompense as I certainly feel further action needs to be taken, whether it be legal or otherwise, but I certainly intend to contact Watchdog at the very least. Please bear with me as this is likely to be rather lengthy
Last week, on 16th Feb, I finally received the MAC code I'd requested from Wanadoo so I could start the process of migrating to another ISP.
[Anyone who has read previous comments of mine on the board will know what a complete fiasco I experienced in getting Wanadoo to even give me the code, resulting in numerous expensive phone calls to them on their 0870 number as they refused to answer any other phone number.]
On the same day, 16th, I made an online application to EFH Broadband to migrate to their service, giving them the MAC code I'd got from Wanadoo, and later received confirmation of my order along with notification that the migration would take place on 23rd Feb (today).
All seemed fine at this point and I heard nothing more from either EFH or Wanadoo. Now from what I understand of the migration process, there is often a 7-10 day wait for the switchover but there should be no disruption to the broadband connection, apart from maybe a couple of hours of downtime on the actual day of migration while BT transfer the ADSL route from one ISP to the other. That I can understand and fully accept, and I was pleased that I only had to wait 7 days for the switch. But no, it didn't work out like this at all, and I have actually been without an internet connection since Sunday lunch-time until about 6pm this evening. It would have been even longer were I not using a network router!
The first time I was alerted to any problem with my connection was following a reboot of my router, as my other PC was having problems holding a connection, but once it had rebooted I couldn't access the internet at all. I tried various things, thinking it might be a hardware problem, as well as phoning Wanadoo to check there wasn't a problem with either my account or their service, as it's been a bit flaky lately to say the least, but no, they assured me the problem must be at my end and maybe my router settings were wrong (but I hadn't changed anything!). I even disabled my network and router and installed the old USB Alcatel modem that I originally used when I first got BB, but still no joy.
Later that evening I called Wanadoo again to double check that everything was ok at their end as everything I had tried had failed to get a connection. I'm no expert but I'm sufficiently knowledgeable to work out most problems and I was confident that the problem wasn't at my end. To try and keep this brief, I ended up making 3 phone calls to them in total that evening, at considerable length and expense on 0870, as I was passed around from person to person at their Indian call centre, and ended up having a "technical expert" having me uninstalling and re-installing drivers, installing the crappy Freeserve CD I originally received with my account (which I was damned annoyed at having to do, as well as realising this was a futile process) until I refused to continue with this ridiculous charade at my expense any further and told him to forget it, I'd figure it out myself. To which he added "run this command: netsh int it reset C:\resetlog.txt then re-boot your PC and it will all be working fine"
I was highly suspicious at this point but felt I had nothing to lose and was desperate to get back online so did as he said. I have no idea what that command does but it certainly didn't get me back online. On the third and final call I made to them that evening I was told that my account had actually been closed on 17th Feb!!!!!!! (apparently the only reason I'd actually stayed online after this point is something to do with the way routers work and it had held onto my connection until the point I had rebooted it)
I was absolutely livid, as you can imagine, having been given a complete run around by everyone I had spoken to previously, despite asking several times if there was a problem with my account. I was then told to call back yet again after 8am the following morning when the accounts dept would be open.
Sorry, this is starting to get long and I'm nowhere near finished yet, but I'll try to keep it as brief as possible ...
Dead on the dot at 8am Monday morning I made my first call of many to Wanadoo, only to find the computer system was down at their end and could I call back later. When I did I was told that Wanadoo had received notification from BT on the 17th (just one day after my application to EFH) that I had successfully migrated to another ISP therefore my account could be closed, which they had done with immediate effect and had refunded the remainder of this month's fee back to my bank.
Obviously at this point I was unable to access my online bank account to verify this, but bearing in mind I had internet connection until the 20th, and had accessed my bank account shortly before going offline, I knew I certainly hadn't received the refund by Sunday (also checked this evening and it's still not been paid) and neither had I received any notification from Wanadoo that they were actually closing my account.
I was absolutely distraught as with no internet access I couldn't do anything at all (I'm disabled/housebound and do absolutely everything online) and was also still waiting for an email from EFH with my new account details! I called Wanadoo again, pleading with them to turn my account back on as they must have made some mistake because my new ISP wasn't due to go live until the 23rd and without internet access I wouldn't be able to get the details with which to set up my new account, nor access their website to get a phone number to call them. I was told it wasn't their problem and they had only followed orders and my issue should be taken up with either BT or my new ISP. They said that once an account is closed it can't be re-instated and suggested I re-applied for a new BB account with them??? Fools!!!! :mad:
I then called BT to see if they could shed any light on what was going on but all they suggested was that they run a fault check on my line to see if there was a problem with the ADSL, despite me trying to explain that I had no account to connect to anyway!!! Out of sheer desperation I made another begging call to Wanadoo but still no joy. They just repeated the same !!!!!! that I'd already heard, but did suggest that I could use the PAYG service to access my emails!
DUH!!! ... now why hadn't I thought of that already instead of putting myself through all this stress and racking up a fortune in telephone calls!!! Unfortunately my newfound hope was short-lived as I realised that neither of my working PC's had dial-up facilities as I'd built them after moving over to BB so had never bothered installing new modems, and the one I had sitting in one of the old PC's had the wrong type of connection for the new type motherboards. The only option left to me was to try and get one of the old PC's up and running, neither of which had been used for at least 18mths and both had various components missing.
I'd always intended re-building a useable one out of the two to add to my network anyway, but had never got a round tuit (I must get one of those) so now seemed as good a time as any and also gave me something positive to focus on, so the next 2-3 hours were spent sorting all that out and eventually managed to get online for sufficient time to check emails and get contact info for EFH, before the system crashed due to previous problems that I hadn't yet fixed.
My next job was to call EFH now I had a phone number for them, and I have to say that Paul, the guy I spoke to, was absolutely fantastic and extremely helpful. He even called me back to save me paying for the call and listened patiently while I told him everything that had happened. Apparently I wasn't the first person they had spoken to that day with exactly the same problem with Wanadoo! He also confirmed that the connection date was still set for the 23rd and gave me all the details I'd need to get connected. He also suggested I called Wanadoo again (yeah I know!) as they were definitely in the wrong for closing my account. His biggest worry was that they might have fully terminated my ADSL meaning I wouldn't be able to complete the migration and would have to pay the full connection price. He said he would check it out and call me back, which he did within 10 minutes and thankfully all was ok with the ADSL route so Wanadoo had only closed my actual BB account ... but this meant they could also re-instate it without a problem and were just being awkward by refusing.
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Maybe it's best I start at the beginning and try to relay events as they happened and hope someone knowledgeable in this sort of thing can help me figure out who I should be going after for recompense as I certainly feel further action needs to be taken, whether it be legal or otherwise, but I certainly intend to contact Watchdog at the very least. Please bear with me as this is likely to be rather lengthy

Last week, on 16th Feb, I finally received the MAC code I'd requested from Wanadoo so I could start the process of migrating to another ISP.
[Anyone who has read previous comments of mine on the board will know what a complete fiasco I experienced in getting Wanadoo to even give me the code, resulting in numerous expensive phone calls to them on their 0870 number as they refused to answer any other phone number.]
On the same day, 16th, I made an online application to EFH Broadband to migrate to their service, giving them the MAC code I'd got from Wanadoo, and later received confirmation of my order along with notification that the migration would take place on 23rd Feb (today).
All seemed fine at this point and I heard nothing more from either EFH or Wanadoo. Now from what I understand of the migration process, there is often a 7-10 day wait for the switchover but there should be no disruption to the broadband connection, apart from maybe a couple of hours of downtime on the actual day of migration while BT transfer the ADSL route from one ISP to the other. That I can understand and fully accept, and I was pleased that I only had to wait 7 days for the switch. But no, it didn't work out like this at all, and I have actually been without an internet connection since Sunday lunch-time until about 6pm this evening. It would have been even longer were I not using a network router!
The first time I was alerted to any problem with my connection was following a reboot of my router, as my other PC was having problems holding a connection, but once it had rebooted I couldn't access the internet at all. I tried various things, thinking it might be a hardware problem, as well as phoning Wanadoo to check there wasn't a problem with either my account or their service, as it's been a bit flaky lately to say the least, but no, they assured me the problem must be at my end and maybe my router settings were wrong (but I hadn't changed anything!). I even disabled my network and router and installed the old USB Alcatel modem that I originally used when I first got BB, but still no joy.
Later that evening I called Wanadoo again to double check that everything was ok at their end as everything I had tried had failed to get a connection. I'm no expert but I'm sufficiently knowledgeable to work out most problems and I was confident that the problem wasn't at my end. To try and keep this brief, I ended up making 3 phone calls to them in total that evening, at considerable length and expense on 0870, as I was passed around from person to person at their Indian call centre, and ended up having a "technical expert" having me uninstalling and re-installing drivers, installing the crappy Freeserve CD I originally received with my account (which I was damned annoyed at having to do, as well as realising this was a futile process) until I refused to continue with this ridiculous charade at my expense any further and told him to forget it, I'd figure it out myself. To which he added "run this command: netsh int it reset C:\resetlog.txt then re-boot your PC and it will all be working fine"

I was highly suspicious at this point but felt I had nothing to lose and was desperate to get back online so did as he said. I have no idea what that command does but it certainly didn't get me back online. On the third and final call I made to them that evening I was told that my account had actually been closed on 17th Feb!!!!!!! (apparently the only reason I'd actually stayed online after this point is something to do with the way routers work and it had held onto my connection until the point I had rebooted it)
I was absolutely livid, as you can imagine, having been given a complete run around by everyone I had spoken to previously, despite asking several times if there was a problem with my account. I was then told to call back yet again after 8am the following morning when the accounts dept would be open.
Sorry, this is starting to get long and I'm nowhere near finished yet, but I'll try to keep it as brief as possible ...
Dead on the dot at 8am Monday morning I made my first call of many to Wanadoo, only to find the computer system was down at their end and could I call back later. When I did I was told that Wanadoo had received notification from BT on the 17th (just one day after my application to EFH) that I had successfully migrated to another ISP therefore my account could be closed, which they had done with immediate effect and had refunded the remainder of this month's fee back to my bank.
Obviously at this point I was unable to access my online bank account to verify this, but bearing in mind I had internet connection until the 20th, and had accessed my bank account shortly before going offline, I knew I certainly hadn't received the refund by Sunday (also checked this evening and it's still not been paid) and neither had I received any notification from Wanadoo that they were actually closing my account.
I was absolutely distraught as with no internet access I couldn't do anything at all (I'm disabled/housebound and do absolutely everything online) and was also still waiting for an email from EFH with my new account details! I called Wanadoo again, pleading with them to turn my account back on as they must have made some mistake because my new ISP wasn't due to go live until the 23rd and without internet access I wouldn't be able to get the details with which to set up my new account, nor access their website to get a phone number to call them. I was told it wasn't their problem and they had only followed orders and my issue should be taken up with either BT or my new ISP. They said that once an account is closed it can't be re-instated and suggested I re-applied for a new BB account with them??? Fools!!!! :mad:
I then called BT to see if they could shed any light on what was going on but all they suggested was that they run a fault check on my line to see if there was a problem with the ADSL, despite me trying to explain that I had no account to connect to anyway!!! Out of sheer desperation I made another begging call to Wanadoo but still no joy. They just repeated the same !!!!!! that I'd already heard, but did suggest that I could use the PAYG service to access my emails!
DUH!!! ... now why hadn't I thought of that already instead of putting myself through all this stress and racking up a fortune in telephone calls!!! Unfortunately my newfound hope was short-lived as I realised that neither of my working PC's had dial-up facilities as I'd built them after moving over to BB so had never bothered installing new modems, and the one I had sitting in one of the old PC's had the wrong type of connection for the new type motherboards. The only option left to me was to try and get one of the old PC's up and running, neither of which had been used for at least 18mths and both had various components missing.
I'd always intended re-building a useable one out of the two to add to my network anyway, but had never got a round tuit (I must get one of those) so now seemed as good a time as any and also gave me something positive to focus on, so the next 2-3 hours were spent sorting all that out and eventually managed to get online for sufficient time to check emails and get contact info for EFH, before the system crashed due to previous problems that I hadn't yet fixed.
My next job was to call EFH now I had a phone number for them, and I have to say that Paul, the guy I spoke to, was absolutely fantastic and extremely helpful. He even called me back to save me paying for the call and listened patiently while I told him everything that had happened. Apparently I wasn't the first person they had spoken to that day with exactly the same problem with Wanadoo! He also confirmed that the connection date was still set for the 23rd and gave me all the details I'd need to get connected. He also suggested I called Wanadoo again (yeah I know!) as they were definitely in the wrong for closing my account. His biggest worry was that they might have fully terminated my ADSL meaning I wouldn't be able to complete the migration and would have to pay the full connection price. He said he would check it out and call me back, which he did within 10 minutes and thankfully all was ok with the ADSL route so Wanadoo had only closed my actual BB account ... but this meant they could also re-instate it without a problem and were just being awkward by refusing.
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"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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It is that what you do, good or bad,
will come back to you three times as strong!
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It is that what you do, good or bad,
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continuation of above ....
Sorry, I know this is becoming exceedingly long but I'm almost done now. Thank you for your patience if you've got this far ...
It was now early afternoon and I'd been at this since 8am and was becoming mentally exhausted going over and over the same story to everyone I had to speak to, not to mention having to repeat my name/address/passwords etc, but I was determined to have another go at Wanadoo now I had some reassurance they were the ones in the wrong but I needed to call BT first as they still hadn't got back to me with the fault check. After going through various depts yet again it was confirmed that both my phone line and ADSL line were in working order.
So, armed with all this new info I called Wanadoo yet again, and demand to speak to a supervisor/manager this time, ending up being left "on hold" for ages until one was available. I told them that they had broken T&C of the migration process and that I'd had it confirmed from both EFH and BT that my account shouldn't have been closed until the 23rd blah blah ... I'm sure you've all got the picture now without me repeating it all again. The woman just kept repeating what was written on her screen and said she had no authority to over-ride it, so I asked to speak to someone who could only to be told that "they" don't speak to the public!!! I wonder why!!!
I ended up breaking down in tears on the phone through sheer frustration and ended by telling her to make a record on my account that I intend to seek legal advice over this as I was left with no choice but to take them to court, and that I would also be reporting them to Watchdog and any other service/company with a vested interest.
By now it was approaching 5.30pm and as a last ditch attempt to try and get something sorted by the evening (the thought of being totally isolated for another 48 hrs with no contact to the outside world scared the hell out of me) I decided to call BT again to see if there was any way of bringing forward the connection to EFH.
I spent the next 2 hours on the phone to BT being passed around from dept to dept and back and forth between the UK and India ( I never knew BT had call centres in India) only to have one dept answer and immediately hang up, meaning I had to go through the whole process again, and not knowing who the hell I'd been speaking to as I'd been put on hold expecting that person to return only to find someone completely new had answered who also didn't have a clue what was going on!!!
I finally got passed to a guy in BT's own broadband dept who couldn't understand why I'd been sent to him as he dealt with BT retail services and the migration dept is part of BT wholesale, who ... surprise, surprise ... don't speak directly to the public!!! (I see a pattern forming here :mad:)
So finally, at almost 8pm ... 12 hours later ... I hang up the phone, having gone around in complete circles and spent the day speaking to around 40 different people around the world, to find I was no better off than when I started and still had no answers as to who is responsible for all this ... BT or Wanadoo???? ... and still no internet connection
If anyone has managed to read this through to the end then thank you so much, and I do apologise for the length of it. I feel almost as mentally drained having written it all down as I did going through that nightmare day on Monday.
What I need now is some good advice on how to proceed, and who to contact, as no way am I going to let whoever is responsible for this mess to get away with it. I also feel justified in claiming expenses for all my phone calls, as well as compensation for the extreme distress endured over the last few days.
I shall leave this entire message on this forum, and this will be the most appropriate place for replies (or via PM) but if it's ok with the mods I might put links to here on the other relevant forums to reach more people in the hope someone here can help me"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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It is that what you do, good or bad,
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spend 10 pounds and buy a modem, go online at 1p per min and save yourself a lot of grief. wannado, bt,and everyother co i have yet dealt with employs buffons in uk or in india. either they are of low intelligence or have no information backup to really decide anything. i suspect the latter.i hope you can see light at the end of tunnel. keep it together and best of luck0
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OMG. What a mess Queen!!! As I was sitting here reading your message, I couldn't help but keep glancing over to my wall where I've tacked up the printout with my wanadoo MAC number. I'm still comparing ISPs at the moment so haven't made the final move yet.
I haven't got a clue where you stand legally, hopefully someone in here will be able to help you out on this. I would say though. Get the word out as much as possible. At least you can spread bad publicity about the company.
I will take your message as a warning of possible things to come. I'll set up the laptop with their dial up number in case this is their standard way of treating leaving customers. I will let you know how my migration goes.
Wow, I must say that I felt frustrated for you as I was reading your post. Good luck with your new ISP!How many surrealists does it take to change a lightbulb?
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I think you'd be justified in writing to Wanadoo head office with a short and succinct letter requesting, say £100, to cover your phone calls and distress. Also, I hope they don't charge you for the time after which they terminated your connection - that would be adding insult to injury! What an incredibly frustrating few days you must have had in dealing with these faceless companies - nightmare. It sounds like a massive ****-up as opposed to anything deliberate - I don't know if you would have any legal case against them. Good luck.0
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Rex_Mundi wrote:OMG. What a mess Queen!!! As I was sitting here reading your message, I couldn't help but keep glancing over to my wall where I've tacked up the printout with my wanadoo MAC number. I'm still comparing ISPs at the moment so haven't made the final move yet.
Check out freedom2surf. They are very good and reliable having only gone down once in the last 14 months and for about 2 hours. Currently I get 2mbps with a 10Gb monthly limit for £20 per month.BE NICE - IT'S FREE!0 -
Queen, sorry I cannot help at all, but your plight reminded me of the absolute nightmare that my daughter went through with Wanadoo in Spain. She had been with them for a couple of years on dial up, they contacted her asking if she would like to upgrade to BB. she agreed............... after a couple of weeks she was connected, all ok for 2 weeks, then all of a sudden she couldn't connect. After, like you umpteen phone calls...Wanadoo agreed they had made a mistake in disconnecting her, but that she would have to apply AGAIN!!!!!!!!! and that it would take 3 weeks ay least to get her connected again.. She decided to go with another company and put down to bad luck her losing the money paid to Wanadoo. she then found that Wanadoo had not and WOULD not release her number, so she was unable to go with another company! It took her 2 weeks and solicitors letters to get connected again.
Apparently in Spain there are almost riots at the way Wanadoo are operating.......... and over there there is no help what so ever.
I will mention that she is half Spanish and speaks the language perfectly, so it was NOT a language thing lol
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Thanks for the messages of support
So the general consensus seems to be that it's Wanadoo at fault here, which is also what the guys at EFH and BT seem to think too. I've yet to decide what course of action I'm going to take against them as the stress of everything has left me feeling quite ill at the moment, but I'm hoping to get the ball rolling today somehow.
The letter to HO sounds like a good idea (thanks paint) so that might be a place to start, as well as a letter to Watchdog I think. I've also just checked my bank account again and there's still no refund from Wanadoo either, although it looks like my DD has been cancelled (I was going to do that anyway) as it's disappeared off the system.
Rex, I wish you luck with your migration and hope you don't have to go through the same as I, but forewarned is fore-armed so they say, which is one of the reasons I posted my (very lengthy!) message to the forum
I don't know enough about the ISP's available to be able to recommend anyone, as it really depends on your needs as to who would suit you most, but there's a website called adslguide or something (maybe someone has a link or do a Google) which is a good source of info and comparison checks.
I must say that I'm extremely impressed with the way EFH dealt with my problems when I called them on Monday. They're not a huge company so can't afford mass advertising campains (hence not many people knowing of them) but they've been around for quite a few years now and rely more on word of mouth to increase their customer base. They're currently offering unlimited access on 512k for £9.99 a month with a £29.99 migration fee (the package I signed up to as I was already on 512k) and once signed up there's no charge to upgrade to a faster connection. Here's there website if you want to take a look. [Disclaimer: I have no connections to the company or receive any referral fee]
Sorry to hear your daughter had such a bad experience with them too gatita, I didn't even know they operated internationally. I wonder how many more disatisfied customers there are out there. I'd been a loyal customer of theirs (started when they were Freeserve) for many years without a problem, until I tried to leave that is :mad:"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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It is that what you do, good or bad,
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I can really sympathise with you Queen. I think I would do what someone else suggested and get onto dial up so that you can sort yourself out with your BB. I would also definitely write a letter and mention that you are contacting Watchdog/Citizens Advice/your solicitor. Make sure you ask for some compensation for your phone calls too.
I have had trouble getting refunds from Ntl after leaving their service. Even though we were disconnected and couldn't use our phone or BB in the middle of November, their computer says we were disconnected on 23rd December for some reason. We keep ringing up and keep being told it has been sorted and our refund is on the way but nothing has been forthcoming yet! So I know how frustrated you must feel, even though your problem is far worse than mine!
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Thanks beachbeth, but I'm actually back online now with my new broadband ISP (or I wouldn't be posting here
) so I've got no worries with my connection now, although it's prompted me into installing a modem in at least one of my PC's in case I ever lose BB again. It didn't cost much so it's not a problem if I never have to use it but it gives me peace of mind knowing I'll be able to get a dial-up connection, even on PAYG, in emergencies.
Oh and to top it all off ... I really can't believe the cheek of these people ... guess what I received in this morning's post????AN INVITATION PLUS CD TO JOIN WANADOO!!!!
And it was directly addressed to me too, so not a mass mailing being delivered to everyone. I certainly know what I'd like to do with it!!!!!!"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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I'm on Wanadoo here in France and have nothing but praise for them. Easy connection. trouble free service and all at a good price as well.0
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