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Electricians!!! What qualifications???

leemina
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Had a couple of quotes for a job and one was NIC registered, seemed very professional, knew what he was on about and didnt pressure us to make a decision there and then. The other we've had round tonight, says he's C&G approved? Whats this, city and guilds?? We're not choosing him though, cos he seemed to want to mess with lots of sockets and tried to pressure us to booking him in. Just wanted to know, which is best on the qualifications front?
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I believe the important point is that he should be able to show you a certificate to prove that he (personally) has passed the Building Regulations examination Part "P". If he hasn't, then he can't give you a certificate on completion of the work and you won't be able to sell your house without it.
http://www.niceic.org.uk/partp/building_regs.html
"Failure to comply with the requirement will be a criminal offence. Local authorities will also have the power to require the removal or alteration of work that does not comply with the Building Regulations."0 -
https://www.competantperson.co.uk
look to see if hes registered, i would always recomend imo to use a niceic registered company person because they guarantee works carried out accordingly or they pay to put it right etc,
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https://www.niceic.org me thinks
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http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=314330
Did you look at the link contained in my post?Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)0 -
he should have a current part p qualification, and 16th edition cert. the city and guild guy could be any numpty who went to college for 1 - 3 years and passed a dead easy course. try and go on recommendation.Mortgage £242500 on completion
FD CC 11/2014 £5900 (£3900 after BT)
FD loan Approx £5700
Deeply depressing total - £2541000 -
There's a bit of mis-information here.
Electrical contractors may be registered with one of several bodies which offer 'competent person' schemes. These schemes allow the approved contractors to self certify their work and issue certificates of compliance with Part P of the building regs, where necessary. Not all domestic work is notifiable under Part P rules.
NICEIC is one of several bodies approved to provide these Competent Person schemes, there are several others including NAPIT, ELECSA. Not all professional electricians bother to register for these schemes if domestic work is a small part of what they do because it's expensive and the scheme only applies to domestic work.
Some of these bodies provide their own Part P qualifications which they like to promote and call 'Building Regulations Exams'.
It is difficult to say whether the other chap was trying it on to get the job. You could ask to see his certificates. A good electrician will want to check that the present installation is fit to take modifications and comply with BS7671 (16th Ed Wiring Regulations).
There are several sets of qualification routes to becoming a professional electrician depending on when the person started their training. The main qualifications are to have both C&G2381 and C&G2391 together with appropriate experience.
City & Guilds is one of the largest UK bodies that manage and provide nationally recognised vocational training.
If you want a good electrician go by recommendation. One benefit of using someone who is registered on a Competent Person scheme is that they have to provide indemnity cover of at least £3M so that if they are sued they are covered. The down side of that is you will pay more.0 -
most electricians are graded under the JIB which is would be good guide for you for the ability of your electrician.
http://www.jib.org.uk/index.htm0 -
Ystrad_Lad wrote:There's a bit of mis-information here.
Electrical contractors may be registered with one of several bodies which offer 'competent person' schemes. These schemes allow the approved contractors to self certify their work and issue certificates of compliance with Part P of the building regs, where necessary. Not all domestic work is notifiable under Part P rules.
Well said Ystrd lad. Theres lots of rubbish being spouted about Part P at the moment & as you rightly advise not all areas of works in a house require certification.
http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_diy.asp
A JIB qualified Electrician should be the minimum standard you would want to employ for works. (Qualified with C&G 236 parts 1 & 2 or equivilent)0 -
The electrician did my job today, he's got NIC and part p, and he left a domestic electrical installation certificate with his NICEIC enrolment number on etc, and said he'll be sending info to local council as he has to do so. He was very professional and didn't try and make more work for us to end up paying more. I feel happy in the knowledge that its safe and that he'll be able to do more work for us in the future. I'm glad I asked the questions on the forums though, because at least I know the correct info now and it gave me more confidence in dealing with electricians. Some of my friends have had horror stories about electricians and plumbers so therefore I had no personal recommendations and had to ring up out of the yellow pages. Thanks again everyone. By the way, I loooove my new cooker and hob, cant believe I've put up with a broken one for 6 years!!0
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Well done...now that you have found a tame electrician you can can pass his name on to friends, family and colleagues...personal recommendation for tradespersons is the best way to go ( works both ways as it also undercovers the 'rogue' customers for the tradesperson as well;) )Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)0
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