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New Cheapest Loan

MSE_Martin
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On Friday Barclaycard will be launching the cheapest loan on the market at 5.7%.

(i will be updating loan article soon)
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  • herbal
    herbal Posts: 348 Forumite
    Been on MS and they have pointed out that this is the cheapest APR at 5.7% on a £4k loan, now been on the website and there is no infomation there at all, can anyone shed any light on this.

    Thanks
  • Rafter
    Rafter Posts: 3,850 Forumite
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    Smile :), it makes people wonder what you have been up to.
  • I have read Martin's article and he says Barclays is the cheapest loan rate at 5.7%. However I have been shopping around and am confused (doesn't take much!).

    I want £4500 over 3 yrs, unsecured, no protection.

    Nationwide at 6.7% APR comes out at £137.93/month whereas Tesco at 12.9% !! comes out at £149.75.

    My confusion is the difference in % rate - if they're both APR why is there such a small difference in monthly repayment between 6.7% and 12.9% - am I missing something here? Why is it so difficult to get a straight comparison?

    Also British Gas is offering 1.something% monthly rate with a repayment of £158-ish per month (the idea is that the balance reduces monthly and so you pay less interest). Does this equate to 12.something% APR?

    why is money so confusing?

    All help gratefully received!!
  • Xbigman
    Xbigman Posts: 3,931 Forumite
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    The various different interest rates make a smallish impact on payments because you are paying back the loan over a relatively short space of time. IE 3 years (36 payments). This means a large part of your payments are off the sum you borrowed and not actually interest.

    There are also different ways of working out interest which is why you get variations again. As to the british gas deal. Is this some kind of revolving loan facility? These are different again.

    For 4500 try getting a credit card like sainsburys 0% on purchases and just buy what you want (although you might need more than one card for 4500). Then balance transfer to a 0% on transfers card in a years time. That way you pay no interest.
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  • Rafter
    Rafter Posts: 3,850 Forumite
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    Doesn't sound like much does it, but £12 a month difference amounts to £432 additional interest over 3 years.

    A 'simple' but not 100% accurate way of looking at it is as follows....

    You are borrowing £4500 over 3 years 36 installments.

    Because you are paying the loan off at an average of £125 a month (4500/36) the amount you are borrowing is always reducing. The 'average amount you are borrowing over the life of the loan is £2250 (£4500 at start/2)

    Interest on £2250 at 6.7% APR is £151 per year or £12.50 per month (£452 over 3 years)

    Interest on £2250 at 12.9% APR is £290 per year or £24.20 per month (£871 over 3 years)

    So the difference in monthly payment is explained by the difference in interest and adds up to a big sum of money over 3 years.

    So the APR of 6.7% and 12.9% relates to the interest of around £450 and £870, so nearly 2x as much interest in total on the second loan.

    1% per month works out at 12.68% APR because of the effect of compounding. If you borrow £1000 in month one and pay 1% monthly interest at the end of month one you will owe £1010. In month 2, you pay interest on £1010 at 1% which is £10.10. If you repeat that for 12 months you will end up owing £1268. Hence 1% per month = 12.68% APR.

    Therefore you should always go for the lowest APR but also look out for any nasty penalties such as early repayment fees or payment protection insurance (which can double the cost of your loan).

    Good luck.

    R.
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  • Thanks to Rafter - am re-reading your reply on a daily basis until it sinks in!!

    Xbigman - had already decided to do just what you suggest, after listening to Martin on the radio talking about something completely different, but then put 2 and 2 together and thought "Sainsbury's credit card followed by Texaco!". Have applied but am still awaiting Sainsburys reply with the credit limit.

    this is such a useful website, thanks to alls concerned!!
  • allanhamer
    allanhamer Posts: 60 Forumite
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    dont forget with Credit cards you are relying on a 0% Bal Tfr being accepted. Where as with a personal loan once you have it you have it, so to speak. Albeit that you pay for the priveledge.
    Must be nothing worse than getting refused a Credit Card and not having a bulk of the money there to repay the loan amount.

    Just be careful thats all :)
  • GEORDIE
    GEORDIE Posts: 1 Newbie
    Questian? Is it possible to pay off a bank loan with one of the credit balance transfer cards like Texaco which offers 3.9% on the duration of the debt or is it only used for credit card transfers?
  • cutesee
    cutesee Posts: 99 Forumite
    Question? Sorry to come in unanounced, but surely credit cards are more risky after the initial offer of no interest over the first year! I have been looking at a first plus loan of £10,000 see below.


    over 60 months (5 years)
    at a monthly repayment of £196.75
    Typical 6.9% APR variable.

    Total amount repayable: £11,805.00

    Seems i can pay early and the only penalty is a months interest, but would need to give 28 days notice, any ideas all you money experts, would be extreemly grateful. cheers
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