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Reduce electricity bill by 20%

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BaJi_2
BaJi_2 Posts: 44 Forumite
These seem useful to save energy by using power factor correction in the home (maximising electrical power by making sure the ac voltage and current in the home supply varie in a way to minimise waste):

http://www.energyenv.co.uk/PowerSaver.asp

They claim it reduces bills by 20%. Has anybody got one? Do you find it useful and is the site above the cheapest?

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  • Graham1
    Graham1 Posts: 445 Forumite
    Only industrial premises are charged extra if they have a poor power factor (e.g. if they have lots of induction motors, flourescent lights etc, which draw a current which is is out of phase with the voltage).

    All residential homes are charged exclusively on power consumed so such devices would have absolutely no effect on residential bills.
  • BaJi_2
    BaJi_2 Posts: 44 Forumite
    I was hoping somebody could give me a technical answer but I've had to think about this myself, which was what I wanted to avoid doing by posting a thread here. This topic is also discussed in the 'green' section and I've posted a comment there. Please read it and give me your views.
  • Reduce electricity bill by 20% - switch all the lights off:p
  • Arkad
    Arkad Posts: 65 Forumite
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    lol@wxmlad - your post reminded me of something I read in the Telegraph at the weekend that also made me laugh.

    The Energy Saving Trust are running an advertising campaign that advises turning the thermostat down by 1 degree can cut 10% off the cost of a heating bill. One columnist jokingly commented that turning it down by 10 degrees would result in a bill of £0 and turning it down by 11 or more would mean the gas company would have to start paying him.

    I found it amusing anyway....
    The Richest Man in Atherstone
  • Xbigman
    Xbigman Posts: 3,915 Forumite
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    The 10% reduction is not wrong.

    Gas bill of 100 minus 10% = 90.
    Then reduce another degree,
    Gas bill of 90 minus 10% = 81. etc etc.

    If you reduce the thermostat by 10 centigrade you only reduce gas usage by about 67%.

    You can never quite get the bill to zero.
    And its all very approximate.
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  • moonrakerz
    moonrakerz Posts: 8,650 Forumite
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    I wouldn't go quite so far to call these devices a scam - but !

    Things like these have been around for some years mainly advertised for things like fridges and freezers. There is some degree of engineering truth in their claims, by altering the power factor of an electric unit it is possible to use less electrical energy to drive that unit. However what degree of savings would be achieved are very debateable, as I said, most likely to be on motor driven things. The biggest users of power in a house are not motor driven ie: cooker, kettle, toaster and heating elements in washing machines etc.
    I have put a simple explanation of Power Factor below !

    Power factor

    The power factor is dependent upon the characteristics of the electrical appliances connected and the relationship between the the amount of real and reactive power which is absorbed.

    In the power triangle diagram, cos(theta) is the power factor and it indicates the relative size of the reactive power component measured in Volt-Amperes-Reactive (VAR).

    When the impedance of the circuit is purely resistive, there is no reactive component and the apparent power is equivalent to the real power (i.e. cos(theta)=0). When reactive components are introduced (inductance or capacitance) the impedance becomes a complex quantity with a resistive and a reactive component:

    * impedance Z=R+jX

    The reactive power component normally results from inductance present in the circuit. The inductor is a fundamental component of electrical networks and, in practice, inductance is unavoidable in standard equipment such as transformers, motors, and even cables. Inductance can be conceived as a circuit component which acts to oppose any change in the current flowing through it. The power triangle also reflects this phenomenon because the power factor angle, theta, represents the amount by which the current lags the voltage in an inductive circuit.

    Therefore electrical circuits operate at a non-ideal (<1.0) power factor and one which is termed lagging (due to inductance). There is therefore a reactive power component which, whilst being the mathematically termed "imaginary" component, causes increased current flow and heating effects in wires and appliances (e.g. pump/fan motors).

    The reduction of the reactive power component is desirable on technical and energy-efficiency grounds. Furthermore the electricity supply utility tariff structure penalises the reactive component of electrical load.
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