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how to manage debts from abroad???!

I was wondering if any one out there can help me? Has anyone moved abroad and had to manage their UK debts from abroad? How do you do it?? I am soon to move to Canada so will be leaving the UK, but am not
able to pay my debts off (student loans, credit card, overdraft)
before leaving. What is the best way to be able to pay these debts
from abroad?

I will be earning Canadian dollars so won't be able to pay as much
off each month as I am at present with my UK salary - I am a
Healthcare Worker and live in London at present, so am not earning much or able to save a great deal (at all!).

I am considering consolidating the debts into a loan with a low interst and low payment (such as £50 - £100max per month). I am looking to borrow approx £12,000 (this will include my student loans). What is the best way to sort these debts - is it recommended going down the consolidation loan route? And which are the best loan companies to go to if I were to do this?

I have considered approaching my Bank (Lloyds TSB) but they are
offering very high interest rates so obviously are not such a good
option.

Has anyone moved abroad and had to do this? Any help and advice you can give me would be most greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much indeed!
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  • kazwookie
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    What type of visa are you moving to Canada on? as some you have to prove you have £xxx amount in your account.
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  • I haven't done this so not much to advise. But - I would suggest that you don't include your student loan in any consolidation loan as the interest rate on a student loan is lower. You have to inform the student loans company when you leave the country so you should do this but you can still make your payments from abroad (I think).

    I would imagine your current CCs have terms about you leaving the country so I would suggest you contact your current creditors now and find out about this. You don't want to be breaching your current agreements.

    Not much else to add I'm afraid. I'm sure somebody more knowledgable will come along soon.
  • Tixy
    Tixy Posts: 31,455 Forumite
    Hi mshockey

    There are some people on here who manage debts/bills from abroad but only a few I know of so it might take some time for any of them to read your post and answer with practical suggestions (euronorris & gfplux are 2 I can think of)

    So do keep checking back for replies.
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  • Tixy
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    BUMPing this up to see if anyone has advice for mshockey
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  • euronorris
    euronorris Posts: 12,247 Forumite
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    Hi there!

    I manage my debts from abroad and it is quite straightforward with some planning.

    Firstly, consider what day you will be getting paid each month and how long it will take for money sent from Canada to reach the UK. I had to move a couple of the payment dates after I moved and was late on payments in the first month. So, please check this and change first. You shouldn't receive any late penalty charges then.

    OK, next, research the banks in Canada and ask a few of your favourites a) how much they charge to transfer funds abroad and b) how long this will take.

    Then, go to http://www.oanda.com/ and have a look at the average exchange rate over the last 6-12 months. This should give you an estimated exchange rate to work from.

    OK, next is your budget. I know it may be difficult at this point, but put together your monthly budget for when you are there and see how much surplus you have to pay the debts. Then apply the exchange rate to is. Ask yourself, will this meet my (at least) minimum repayments? If so, great. You will then just send the money home each month and make the payments accordingly. If not, then you need to start thinking about a self managed DMP and offering each company a fair proportion of your surplus income each month.

    I have not had any experience in the last part as the exchange rate between UK and Euro is pretty good at the moment so I haven't lost too much in exchanges. So, if you find that you will be in this situation I would advise perhaps speaking to the CCCS etc or even considering not moving.

    Don't forget to tell your debtors of your new Canadian address also.

    Oh yes, whilst speaking to the banks, ask them about any other cheaper ways you could transfer the money with them. And research this on the net and look at international banks. Most have a minimum income level of about 25K though (not sure what your income is).

    OK, I think that's it for now. I'll probably remember some more later though.

    One last thing though.....are you sure this move is a good idea for you right now. You mentioned earlier that you would not be able to save any money at the moment and that your salary in Canada would decrease the amount of money available for debt repayments.

    I know how tempting it is to move country, but, please, please, please don't do anything that could potentially make things worse for yourself. Think it through long and hard and you know, you could always do it at a later date. That said, I know once someone has decided on this path it can be very hard to dissuade them, so, I wish you luck whichever path you choose :)
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  • Other than the serious answer as supplied by euronorris (thanks by the way - enlighting to say the least :)) the option i'd suggest is move and don't tell them you're going!

    They can't exactly do much (or more to the point they won't - especially if you don't tell them where you're going)...

    Problem solved :):):)
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  • euronorris
    euronorris Posts: 12,247 Forumite
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    Other than the serious answer as supplied by euronorris (thanks by the way - enlighting to say the least :)) the option i'd suggest is move and don't tell them you're going!

    They can't exactly do much (or more to the point they won't - especially if you don't tell them where you're going)...

    Problem solved :):):)

    Ah yes, but this does depend on whether or not the OP wishes to return to the UK at some point.

    If more than 6 years then it shouldn't be an issue, but any earlier and this could cause no end of grief upon their return.

    What you can do before you leave, and I'm surprised you didn't mention this one Never-in-Doubt is to request copies of the CCA's from each lender and check the enforcibility of the agreement.

    And, you know, I have to be serious sometimes! lol. Honestly though, I didn't plan this well before I moved and it caused me no end of grief in the first couple of months. Debt collectors calling my parents house (the last address they had for me) and upsetting my Grandma (who was living with them at the time) 5 times a day is not good.
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  • euronorris wrote: »
    Ah yes, but this does depend on whether or not the OP wishes to return to the UK at some point.

    If more than 6 years then it shouldn't be an issue, but any earlier and this could cause no end of grief upon their return.

    What you can do before you leave, and I'm surprised you didn't mention this one Never-in-Doubt is to request copies of the CCA's from each lender and check the enforcibility of the agreement.

    And, you know, I have to be serious sometimes! lol. Honestly though, I didn't plan this well before I moved and it caused me no end of grief in the first couple of months. Debt collectors calling my parents house (the last address they had for me) and upsetting my Grandma (who was living with them at the time) 5 times a day is not good.

    I know what you mean, but even if the OP decided to move back to the UK, the easy way around things is to then bend the truth at length of time abroad - if you follow my drift :rolleyes:

    Anyway, moving swiftly on (away from the illegal gossip lol)...... CCA's wouldn't be great cos they will not got sorted anytime soon therefore meaning the OP would have to give the new address anyway. If it were me, i'd just go and leave them at that and if anything worry about them if and when I ever came back (remember the OP did say they were not able to pay a lot into them)..... :D:D

    I remember your past posts regards to hassle - not good was it mate :mad: :mad: I hate DCA's - with a vengeance! :rotfl:
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  • euronorris
    euronorris Posts: 12,247 Forumite
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    I hate them! The stupid thing is, I was late on one payment!! Just one! And I had already contacted and advised when the payment would be made and yet they still kept calling my parents house!

    My Mum thought I was going bankrupt like my brother did! Grrrrr!

    Anyway, that's all over now. Onwards and upwards. I just want to clear them now so I can buy a property in the UK.....mayeb. I dunno, still undecided.

    Buying a property here is looking more and more appealing and ......easier. They lend you more as the government pays a certain amount of the interest on the repayments. ie, my Manager's mortgage repayment should be €1.300 pm, but....she only ends up paying out €850 pm! Bit off topic now.

    To the OP, don't forget to factor things like healthcare into your monthly budget. I'm not sure how it works in Canada but I have to pay €105,15 in medical insurance each month here. There are lots of differences between countries that I simply had not even considered. Certain things you assume are the same and that's not always the case so do check first.
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  • rog2
    rog2 Posts: 11,650 Forumite
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    I think that you should wait until you are actually in Canada, before contacting your creditors in the UK.
    Then follow the advice given by Euronorris.
    You can use the National Debtline 'template letters' to request lower monthly payments:

    http://www.nationaldebtline.co.uk/england_wales/factsheet.php?page=review_pack_for_people_who_have_no_available_income_to_pay_creditors

    Whilst the advice given by nid may be tempting, and, legally at least, there is precious little that your creditors could do to enforce UK debts in Canada, I am sure that it was given somewhat 'tongue in cheek'. ;)

    You are to be commended for wishing to 'deal with your debts' in a reasonable manner, rather than using the opportunity of emigration as a means to 'avoid' those debts.

    Your creditors will, also, know that they have no real means of enforcing their agreements in Canada, so you will be in a very strong position to negotiate with them.

    Good Luck.
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