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Company car tax

Quinny_2
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I have just been promised a promotion at work,which may include a company car. (First one for years.)
How can I avoid paying tax on this?
Ken.
How can I avoid paying tax on this?
Ken.
That's my mutt in the picture above.
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You can't totally avoid paying tax on it.
There are minimisation strategies, though.
(1) Van/double-cab
If you have a van or a double-cab type pickup vehicle (some of which have as much passenger space as a car) the tax liability is fixed at a low amount.
The IR are challenging this where it's blatant avoidance - easier to justify if you have a business need to deliver large items using the vehicle, than if you work in an office and never carry anything bigger than a briefcase on business.
(2) Personal leasing contract based schemes
My employer uses this approach. Instead of the company buying/leasing a vehicle and giving it to the employees (in which case the full tax is due), the employer organises personal leasing contracts for the employees (getting a better rate than they would get as individuals due to the volume of cars purchased). The employees then charge mileage to the employer at the IR maximum rates and the income isn't taxable because it's within the IR allowable amounts.
This approach works best if you are going to do lots of business mileage.
In both cases, it's mainly down to the flexibility of your employer and their desire to save you tax. If they are insisting you have a Ford Mondeo 1.8LX and that they will own it, you can't do very much at all to minimise tax.
Of course, I've neglected to mention thus far, but if you DO have a choice of vehicle, you can save tax by choosing one with low emissions (hence tax rate of 15% applies - ideally a Euro IV compliant diesel) and having a low list price.
Let us know how you get on!0 -
and laying off the options list !
Although in my humble opinion if you were to plump for a £20000 car in a 24% tax band you would be charged on a benefit of £4800 a year (at 22 % this is £21 per week or at 40% £36.92 a week) which makes me think that too many folk !!!!!! (orininal post said the word b1tch here, nice one) and whine about Company car tax - they have completley lost touch with the cost of buying, insuring, running, taxing and servicing a vehicle.
Personally, I would get the best vehicle that the company offers you (especially if it is a Euro iv compliant diesel) and laugh your socks off all the way to the bank. Even though the tax regime has changed Company cars still are an enormous perk.
MTC
p.s. fuel benefit needs a much closer look though.0 -
You're quite right - a good company car, incurring only around 15% of list price in taxable benefit, is good value IMHO and should not cost too much in fuel to run.0
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Thanks chaps.
I've also spoke to a friend of mine,who has had company cars for years,so is used to the IR robbing him because he has a company car,and he has given me some hints about it.
1.If the company pay your fuel cost,then the IR will stiff you.
2.If you have to pay for private mileage,then tax is about £750 per year,but if you do a lot of work related mileage,then it's possible to 'lose' some,so it doesn't cost you personally.
3.(I like this one.) If it's classed as a pool car,then no tax is payable.
I hope my company have their heads screwed on,and class it as 3,which could be the case,because my current boss lets us use his car for all manor of stuff during work time.
I'll keep you posted,but it could be a few weeks,but once I know,I'll bump the thread.
Ken.That's my mutt in the picture above.0 -
If you use the car for travelling to and from work then it won't be classed as a pool carBulletproof0
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Troo is correct regarding pool cars. The only way a car is a pool car is if it sits around at the office and is used for work journeys only, by a number of different people. Effectively the same as the way that you would not be charged company car tax if your company hired a car for the day for you to go on a business trip.
Regarding paying for private mileage, most companies would just get you to pay for the private fuel element (say 9p a mile) which then means you are not liable for them providing you with free fuel. I would not go for "free fuel" unless you do a lot of private mileage.
Fiddling the number of miles you pay for is not a good idea as it's tax evasion.0 -
Watch out for the IR working out your bill. Hubby has had a company car for years now, there wasn't a problem until the boss changed to his latest car. The IR didn't include it in hubby's tax code for a whole year, we rang them and they said yes, we know you have a car, it'll be included in next year's code. Which it was, but then the next year they told us that they'd worked it out wrong and now he has a MINUS tax code >:(Bulletproof0
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Oh and another thing. Assuming that you do get the car, send a letter to IR letting them know all of the car details the very day that you receive it. Your company will have to tell IR anyway - but it may take them 3 months to do so (which means you are in arrears before you start.
MTC
p.s. if you buy a decent car mag such as Whatcar it will tell you what your tax charge is going to be on a car by car basis. It does make for interesting reading, in a lot of cases a more expensive car attracts a much lower tax charge due to its lows CO2 emissions.
Also the leading robber baron or our elected band of lying charlatans (Georgeous Gordon - no rise in income tax ha ha ha) has announced that ALL diesel cars will carry a 3% surcharge from Apr
2006 -regardless of whether they comply with Euro iv or not, but that a car registered before Jan 2006 will enjoy the waiver for the life of the company car0 -
@troo and Murphy - there's no point telling the Revenue quickly about your new company car. Better that they find out when they are told by the company. By telling them you are just paying tax earlier. The total amount due doesn't change.
And Murphy - I 10000% agree. The original theory was that Euro III diesels were less clean than petrol cars, hence the tax differential. Then once all diesel cars are obliged to be Euro IV, the blighter reintroduces the differential to apply to all diesel cars.
Still, the 3% supplement is not enough to make a petrol car better value from a tax point of view, especially if you are paying for your own fuel.0 -
The company told the IR straight away, they just took ages to sort out his tax code. When they eventually sorted it, we were surprised because it didn't change much, that's why we rang them. They said the amount was correct so we thought no more of it, then they admitted their mistake and changed the tax code to minus. We couldn't pay it off slowly, they adjusted the tax code and that was that. And it's hit us hard >:(Bulletproof0
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