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A cautionary tale re: SRJ Debt Recoveries
pnrob
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Some months ago I received a letter from S.R.J Debt Recoveries in relation to an outstanding debt of £51.36 owed to Eon. The debt was for an electricity bill for an address I have not owned, lived in or had any connection to. What is more I have never had an account with Eon. However the letter was addressed to me at my current address...
I phoned SRJ and explained the above. The chap I spoke to went away for a couple of minutes, returned and said he had looked at my file and I was right, the debt did not refer to me. He apologised but became very brusque when I asked for confirmation in writing of what he had told me. He told me I had his "word" on the matter but, when pushed, agreed to write a letter to this effect. I noted his name and the time/date of the call.
My mistake was, several months later, throwing this information away. I have today received another letter from SRJ stating that despite writing to me I have failed to correspond with their office. The letter asked me to phone to arrange a time for a "pre-litigation report" agent to attend at my address in preparation for legal proceedings.
Somewhat agrieved I again phoned SRJ explaining that I had spoken to them already but that, my fault, I no longer had the details of to whom I had spoken. The chap I was talking to said my account showed no record of my having contacting them and that today's letter was the first they had sent me. I pointed out that the wording stated that previous correspondence had been sent but he claimed that this would have been information provided by the client, Eon, and that litigation was the client's recommendation. A discussion about whether or not this was likely to be the case ensued, but clearly I was getting nowhere. Instead I have arranged to send SRJ a copy of my mortgage statement and electricity bill from the period in dispute to prove that I live at a totally different address, in a completely different region of the UK (though how this proves I DON'T have a connection with the disputed address I do not know)! I will, of course, now file all correspondence relating to this matter and ensure none is disposed of.
As a postscript I contacted Eon to find out how my details have been apended to the outstanding bill and, as I have never had any contact with Eon, how they came to have my current address. Eon stated that they referred the outstanding bill to SRJ several months ago but did NOT have either my details nor my address on any of their records, stating that that information would have been gathered by SRJ. Rather, all they had was the name of the account holder and the address of the account. Clearly, therefore, someone is lying to me. I struggle to believe that a random helpdesk person at Eon is the one... The Eon lady suggested that SRJ simply did a UK-wide voters check on the name that I share with the defaulter and send the same letter to all hits. The one that doesn't reply with some evidence that they were living elsewhere at the time of the default will be pursued! Has anyone heard of such a ridiculous scatter gun approach to debt collection????
I will update this forum on any developments with SRJ...but, the cautionary tale part: ALWAYS keep full records of correspondence with such debt recovery agencies...and don't assume that the passage of a few months means the problem has been dealt with as promised!
I phoned SRJ and explained the above. The chap I spoke to went away for a couple of minutes, returned and said he had looked at my file and I was right, the debt did not refer to me. He apologised but became very brusque when I asked for confirmation in writing of what he had told me. He told me I had his "word" on the matter but, when pushed, agreed to write a letter to this effect. I noted his name and the time/date of the call.
My mistake was, several months later, throwing this information away. I have today received another letter from SRJ stating that despite writing to me I have failed to correspond with their office. The letter asked me to phone to arrange a time for a "pre-litigation report" agent to attend at my address in preparation for legal proceedings.
Somewhat agrieved I again phoned SRJ explaining that I had spoken to them already but that, my fault, I no longer had the details of to whom I had spoken. The chap I was talking to said my account showed no record of my having contacting them and that today's letter was the first they had sent me. I pointed out that the wording stated that previous correspondence had been sent but he claimed that this would have been information provided by the client, Eon, and that litigation was the client's recommendation. A discussion about whether or not this was likely to be the case ensued, but clearly I was getting nowhere. Instead I have arranged to send SRJ a copy of my mortgage statement and electricity bill from the period in dispute to prove that I live at a totally different address, in a completely different region of the UK (though how this proves I DON'T have a connection with the disputed address I do not know)! I will, of course, now file all correspondence relating to this matter and ensure none is disposed of.
As a postscript I contacted Eon to find out how my details have been apended to the outstanding bill and, as I have never had any contact with Eon, how they came to have my current address. Eon stated that they referred the outstanding bill to SRJ several months ago but did NOT have either my details nor my address on any of their records, stating that that information would have been gathered by SRJ. Rather, all they had was the name of the account holder and the address of the account. Clearly, therefore, someone is lying to me. I struggle to believe that a random helpdesk person at Eon is the one... The Eon lady suggested that SRJ simply did a UK-wide voters check on the name that I share with the defaulter and send the same letter to all hits. The one that doesn't reply with some evidence that they were living elsewhere at the time of the default will be pursued! Has anyone heard of such a ridiculous scatter gun approach to debt collection????
I will update this forum on any developments with SRJ...but, the cautionary tale part: ALWAYS keep full records of correspondence with such debt recovery agencies...and don't assume that the passage of a few months means the problem has been dealt with as promised!
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Sadly this is VERY normal - you'd think that for a debt that size it wouldn't be worth it but bless them they rarely give up. Interestingly it's not up to YOU to prove you don't owe the money - it's up to them to prove you DO...

Given my view of DCA I wouldn't send them anything - least of all details like mortgage statements etc... Because they have NO obligation to treat your details with any care or dispose of them once they have determined that you are indeed NOT the debtor in question. So they COULD hang on to them for quite a while in the hope that they could use them later...DFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
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Oh and it's well know that they will keep trying people because they don't care WHO pays the debt - so long as someone does... whether or not it's your debt or not really doesn't worry them... they are such lovely companies
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Familiarise yourself and try to learn the OFT debt collection guidelines and section 40 of the Administration of Justice act
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/bus...dit/oft664.pdf
http://www.debthelpuk.co.uk/administ...-act-1970.html
And make formal complaints to Eon, SRJ, the OFT etc. And send nothing else.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
Just agreeing with RAS and Mrs. T. The only thing I would add is 'Do not waste your money on phone calls' - keep all correspondance in writing.
Read the OFT Guidelines and talk to the Trading Standards about SRJ.I am NOT, nor do I profess to be, a Qualified Debt Adviser. I have made MANY mistakes and have OFTEN been the unwitting victim of the the shamefull tactics of the Financial Industry.
If any of my experiences, or the knowledge that I have gained from those experiences, can help anyone who finds themselves in similar circumstances, then my experiences have not been in vain.
HMRC Bankruptcy Statistic - 26th October 2006 - 23rd April 2007 BCSC Member No. 7
DFW Nerd # 166 PROUD TO BE DEALING WITH MY DEBTS0 -
I have also been harrassed by srj debt recoveries for a bill they claim I owe E.O.N. The amount is £230.21 but I do not owe anything. I phoned them and explained there had been a mix up and that whilst I did live at the address in question and I was supplied by E.O.N, I did not live there at the time the bill was run up. They rudely told me I was a liar, it was my bill and I had to pay. I told them my current residence is being supplied by E.O.N and that like the previous address this bill is in my partner's name and I have never had any direct dealings with E.O.N. This made no diffrence and they told me the account with E.O.N is not in my partner's name and never has been- what lies! I have had to email them ( at their request) a copy of my current tennancy agreement to prove I did not live at the address in question during the time they are on about but they have not even bothered to reply or acknowledge receipt of the email. I don't know what to do now. How do you deal with a company like this?:(0
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Please stop this.
It is not your responsibility to prove that you do not owe this money.
it is SRJ' responsibility to prove you do owe it.
Will come back with a link in a bit. Send them this letter http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=11570893&postcount=2If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
[FONT="]I have sent them this letter.
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[FONT="]SRJ Debt Recoveries Ltd[/FONT]
[FONT="]P.O. Box.1173[/FONT]
[FONT="]Woking[/FONT]
[FONT="]GU22 2BS[/FONT]
[FONT="]September 3, 2011[/FONT]
[FONT="]Dear Sir/Madam
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[FONT="]Your Ref: xxxxxx[/FONT]
[FONT="]You have contacted me under the above reference number, quoting an amount £102.45 which you claim is owed by me.
I would point out that I have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to British Telecom Group Plc as per your claim[/FONT]
[FONT="]I am also in receipt of our another letter which I found on street outside my letter box duly opened which does not indicate why it was written, and also it may have been read by the neighbors or anyone in the street which is also against the OFT Debt collection guidance, Final guidance on unfair business practices July 2003 (updated December 2006) OFT664 2.6 (j) which clearly says acting in a way likely to be publicly embarrassing to the debtor either deliberately or through lack of care, for example, by not putting correspondence in a sealed envelope and putting it through a letterbox, thereby running the risk that it could be read by third parties.
Whereas it has been asked in the letter to contact on premiums number 08453137203 which I did and incurred charges as well, this is also against the guidance of OFT Debt collection guidance, Final guidance on unfair business practices July 2003 (updated December 2006) OFT664. Parga 22 (h).[/FONT]
[FONT="] Further you have violated as per guidance set forth in 22 (g) which say it is an example of violation when ignoring or disregarding debtors' legitimate wishes in respect of when and where to contact them, for example, shift workers who ask not to be telephoned during certain times of the day
You have kept calling on my number despite clear warning that either you should introduce yourself or write me a letter but you ignored all the instruction and caused severe mental stress which has affected my personal as well as life at work.
You have also violated the para 2.8 (d.) which says contacting debtors directly and bypassing their appointed representatives also you asked for date of birth and other personal details which are violation of 2.8 (j). requiring an individual to supply information to prove they are not the debtor in question, for example, driving licenses, passports, full name, date of birth, signatures.[/FONT]
[FONT="]You have also violated OFT guidance, threatening at the end of your letter that I will receive letters, telephone calls or court proceedings, without letting me know any details of the issue and you have not asked the suitable time to call me and without giving me evidence you have threatened me of court proceedings.[/FONT]
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I am familiar with the ‘Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance’ which states that it is unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the Debtor in question.
I would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.
Furthermore, ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment.
I would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above accounts unless you can provide evidence as to my liability for the debt in question.
I await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a Complaint to the Office of Fair Trading ( and to any other Official body that I deem relevant) and seek compensation from yourselves. [/FONT]
[FONT="]I have also come reservations about the way you carried out while approaching me and I will write them direct to the concern authorities if you do not cease to write and calling me further.
Yours
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