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Old Style Book - Allotment Tips/Advice Needed
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Former_MSE_Sue
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Hello - writing a section for the book about allotments - can see there's some stuff under the 'Grow Your Own' section - can we start a list of advice/tips for someone getting an allotment for the first time, ideally if we can run it from cheapest way to get one, what to plant and any general tips/OS advice that would be great. Not after coming round to sample all your lovely veggies honest!!! Post away!!! Cheers Sue
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Regardless of whatever has been grown in the allotment/veggie patch previously, get in a crop of spuds every couple of years/first off. Breaks the soil up beautifully with no hard work & a years worth of tatties at the end of it:beer:
Other than that, my only advice is to save seeds where ever possible from each crop for next season.....a few family members have been having an annual pumpkin competition for about 6 years now & the seeds from one particular stallion are prized above alomst everything else, once with a single seed comprising an entire christmas present to someone:DPost Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p
In England we have Mothering Sunday & Father Christmas, Mothers day & Santa Clause are American merchandising tricks:mad: Demonstrate pride in your heirtage by getting it right please people!0 -
Im glad you asked Sue, ive just applied to get an allotment and will probably need all the help I can get! Local council websites are the best place to find out where the allotments are, how much they cost, and application forms. ive applied for one that will cost around £20 for the year, is really close to home, and intend on doing potatoes, a bit of salad etc, and a raspberry bush (for homemade jam!) in my first year. Ill see how tht goes and then expand my range a bit, im really looking forward to green beans as they are lovely and so expensive!
Jo xx#KiamaHouse0 -
I am not sure if I am allowed to refer to another forum, but there is a Yahoo group called kitchengardens, which I belong to, and you will find masses of tips there. The subject of first time allotment growing is well covered in the archives, as it is a popular topic.
I have had an allotment since my first son was 6 months old - now 15! I am not self sufficient, but keep us pretty well supplied with fruit, veg and flowers. I would recommend planning carefully, grwoing only what your family likes and will eat. No point having dozens of cabbages or a couple of rows of parsnips if they hate them!
Buy a cheap notebook or diary, and keep notes on sowing dates, varieties, crops etc. this will grow into your own tailor made reference book for your own plot.
All the best,
Serena.It is never too late to become what you were always intended to be0 -
Well they say to learn from our mistakes, so here's a tip from a failed allotment holder!
Only take on what you'll be able to manage.
I took on a small overgrown plot and it took me much longer to clear then I thought. With full-time working, just moving into a house that needed loads of work, and also a large garden to look after, I could only get down there every 3-4 weeks. By which time the couch grass and thistles had grown back and I was back to square one. This can be very demoralising.
The final straw was when the parish chairman came to see me. Apparently the other plot holders had complained that my plot was uncultivated and not kept tidy so I was contravening the rules. He gave me another year to make ammends but I just couldn't get there often enough to keep it neat, and so after another visit I gave it up.
(My plot was on a sought after site of only 15 plots, with a waiting list, and therefore did stick out like a sore thumb. It didn't help that ALL the other plot holders were retired and there every day, so I can see why there were grumblings - they thought I wasn't using the ground that was in demand)
This isn't meant as a negative post, or to make new 'allotmenteers' think they must keep unecessary high standards, just a word of caution. It can be great fun and hugely rewarding - I just set too high goals for myself with my limited time.
One day I will try again, hopefully a little wiser in what I can achieve.
Edit: On a positive note, I now grow loads of veggies in our garden - much easier to manage and nobody to complain!New year, no debt! Debt free date - 02/01/07 :j :j :j0 -
I don't have an allotment, but do grow veggies in my garden, so whether this qualifies me i don't know. But i think one of the best things you can do is to try and produce your own compost.
I have a worm farm for mine, i did splash out for it, but they can be made easily from stackable plastic boxes, diy instructions can be found on the internet, or use a regular compost heap.
I feed them on all the uncooked fruit, veg & salad scraps. No garlic & onions as this stops them breeding. Limit citrus so not too acidic.
You can give them contents of hoover, egg shells, teabags, coffe grounds, limited grass & plant cuttings, bread, cake, limited cheese, and loads more. I shred our confidential waste and put that it as food and bedding.
I collect the liquid fertiliser regularly and store it in pop bottles. When its time to start feeding plants again, dilute this with water, my toms last year were fab!!
The worms have nearly filled the current layer they're in, so i'll be taking that off ready to start potting some seeds very soon, and putting them into the next layer.
So, i've got rich compost, liquid fertiliser, fab veggies, lovely flowers, less rubbish and it doesn't cost me anything.
One other thing, OH uses a few of the worms as bait when he goes fishing, so he's saving too!£2 Money Savers Club = £18 :T
Car loan 1 = Paid off :dance:
Car loan 2 = £2400
CC - Paid off :dance:0 -
We have had an allotment for 5 years and have learnt to grow things that store well like potatoes and onions as your main crop. My advice would be to grow anything else from plants bought at the market or from school fetes/gardening clubs unless you are an expert. Seeds have been a bit of a disaster for us. Also, be nice to other holders, they often have a surplus of plants and give them to you for nothing. I would definitely agree that growing potatoes in the first year is essential, its easy, looks great and feels wonderful when you walk away with a couple of barrow loads.Just when I'm about to make ends meet, somebody moves the ends0
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I've had an allotment for 6 years now. It was very overgrown with nettles, couch grass, creeping buttercup, bindweed, docks and dandelions when I got it in the autumn. I strimmed it and dug out a small bed for planting garlic in at once. Because garlic sprouts quickly it is very encouraging.
Whenever I could (working full time then), I popped up and dug a little more. I was very patient with the roots of the perennial weeds mentioned, pulling them carefully out of each spadeful and putting them into a strong binbag to rot down - so it was slow but thorough work (and very satisfying to make use of these vicious weeds). Every time the weeds rose relentlessly in the large areas I had not got to yet, I strimmed them back again. That meant that the plot always looked tidy and under control and no-one could complain, as they could see that I was gradually extending the area under cultivation.
I have watched lots of people taking on overgrown neighbouring plots, and they break their backs digging without weeding at the same time - in between their exhausting efforts they need to rest for a few weeks, and the perennial weeds sprout at once and take over again. So I believe that little and often must be the answer, plus a strimmer.
I read an article (RHS "Garden"?) in which a man who commuted to work daily stopped off at his allotment early every morning for a very organised 30 minute stint before carrying on to his office. He would plan each minute carefully, maybe planting out 20 lettuce plants, trimming 5 metres of grass edges and digging two rows, for instance. Apparently he kept the whole allotment productive and smart on these daily half hours.
To those thinking of raspberries I cannot recommend too highly the autumn ones, such as "Autumn Bliss". They fruit profusely from summer to late autumn, and need no other care than cutting down to the ground every winter, the easiest pruning method in the world.0 -
A usefull thing to know if there are no allotments provided in your area, is that if a certain number of people on the electoral role request allotments (it's either 6 or 9 i can't remember!) then the council have an obligation to provide them!0
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When deciding what crops to grow (especially if growing primarily to save money) i would go with two catagories
1. Things you use lots of, like potaoes, onions or carrots
2. Things that are expensive to buy, like rasberries, redcurrents or rocket
growing things that are cheap and easy to buy is still rewarding but not really in a financial sense!0 -
I use my allotment for expensive and/or locally unobtainable things such as raspberries, asparagus, globe artichokes, purple sprouting broccoli, shallots, strawberries, gooseberries, redcurrants, blackcurrants, climbing french beans, broad beans, new potatoes (not maincrop), garlic, jerusalem artichokes, rocket, kale.
I grow a few carrots, onions, beetroot, parsnips, lettuces, leeks, rhubarb for fun, and I have inherited an ancient and productive apple tree.0
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