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Old Style Book - Anyone Keep Chickens?

Former_MSE_Sue
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Hello - calling all chicken experts......
Have been going through the threads of keeping your own chickens - lots of great info but need to get together some short practical tips and advice - here's what I'm after....
* Cost of buying chickens - some OS's saying you can get them for around £1 at farmers markets; how much should you expect to pay and for what type of bird/age etc. When are you in danger of being ripped off?
* What sort of chickens are suitable for your back garden?
* any tips on how to choose a chicken - what to look for etc?
* how many eggs can you expect and how frequently?
* Cash wise how long before you're likely to see the benefit and saving money?
any other tips/advice that can go in the chapter on being self sufficient is great - will be back in touch for more of your tips v soon Cheers and thanks Sue
Have been going through the threads of keeping your own chickens - lots of great info but need to get together some short practical tips and advice - here's what I'm after....
* Cost of buying chickens - some OS's saying you can get them for around £1 at farmers markets; how much should you expect to pay and for what type of bird/age etc. When are you in danger of being ripped off?
* What sort of chickens are suitable for your back garden?
* any tips on how to choose a chicken - what to look for etc?
* how many eggs can you expect and how frequently?
* Cash wise how long before you're likely to see the benefit and saving money?
any other tips/advice that can go in the chapter on being self sufficient is great - will be back in touch for more of your tips v soon Cheers and thanks Sue
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I have 3 girls, all bantams. We paid £6 each, I think the £1 chickens you mention are normally ex battery hens that the farmers want to get rid of as egg production has died down. We were recommended to buy the chicken at point of lay (?!) which is about 18 weeks, this means they should start laying eggs. At the moment one of our chickens lays every other day, the other 2 are just not bothering !!!
I have been told that egg production should improve as the weather gets better. So they have not really saved me any money yet !! However that said, they make fantastic pets for my boys who have named them Josie, Penny and Edie, after the Balamory programe !. They all have different characters and make us laugh when they are the garden. The eggs do taste fabulous and it is great to know that they have come from a healthy chicken which has not been fed antibiotics, kept in barns etc.
I would definately recommend keeping chickens !
Bek x0 -
We have 4 chickens -3 brown ones (standard chickens that are used by battery farms - not pure breed) and 1 bantam. We had 4 bantams this time last year, but the other 3 got sick and died. The big brown ones seem much hardier and are much better layers. We're currently getting 1-2 eggs a day. Once the weather improves the other brown chicken will hopefully be less lazy. Our bantam hasn't laid an egg in months. We paid £6 a chicken for the bantams and definitely did not get much benefit from them!
Our brown chickens we paid £2 each for (found them in the free ads). They were from a local chicken keeper not from a battery farm, but I have had ex battery chickens in the past and had a year's worth of good laying from them.
We let our chickens roam free in our back garden, but they do scratch enthusiastically so be aware that they will scratch up any young plants you might be nurturing!
Chickens are a great way of using up food scraps that might otherwise go to waste - ours love cooked pasta and rice - sometimes friends and neighbours bring them food parcels!
They are pretty cheap to feed - we buy a sack of grain and pellets about every 6 months and apart from that they eat worms from the garden and scraps. Chicken houses can be expensive unless you build them yourself. We found a local man who made ours fairly cheaply - but then ripped us off by selling us 4 expensive bantams that hardly laid any eggs!0 -
Our first two girls were from our school farm (now closed down by Evil headmaster and governors boo hiss) and were used to company - we used to take them down to the allotment handily placed at the end of our garden, and they used to dice with death by snatching worms just where we were digging! We used to let them free range around the garden, but the fox got in one afternoon - wily city beast!
We replaced them with four from the Wernlas collection - they are flighty and scared of human contact - and I am worried about letting them out. We got them at the end of September and havent had the time to 'make friends' as we did with the other two. We will have to work at it in the Summer. We bought them as point of lay but it took about 2 months before the eggs came - we get at least 2 a day and usually 3 or 4.
I read later in Kitchen Garden that it is better to get them younger if you want them to get used to you.
It is definitely worth the time and money - we have cakes. meringues, icecream, egg fried rice, omelettes. pancakes.....0 -
I have two lovely, friendly and productive black rock hens. They are wonderful pets.* Cost of buying chickens - some OS's saying you can get them for around £1 at farmers markets; how much should you expect to pay and for what type of bird/age etc. When are you in danger of being ripped off?* What sort of chickens are suitable for your back garden?* any tips on how to choose a chicken - what to look for etc?* how many eggs can you expect and how frequently?* Cash wise how long before you're likely to see the benefit and saving money?
We have never regretted getting the chickens, they have been a wonderful source of amusement as well as protien and are far more efficient than the compost bin.
Good luck and enjoy your chickens!0 -
Wouldn't call myself an expert but started to keep chickens 3 years ago. We purchased 3 Black Rock Hens for £6 each at a poultry auction.They were point of lay in the Autumn and had been vaccinated. They all started laying one egg a day within the first month, fab big brown eggs with deep yellow yolks. They were kept in an ark which had to be moved every day as they completely trashed the ground they were on. The orchard started to resemble a bomb site between the hens and the moles!
I gave them layers pellets in the morning (when they were most likely to eat it) and corn in the evening. They would not go to bed until they had had their corn! They were very companionable and we allowed them to free range when we were gardening. Unfortunately we got complacent and one day one hen vanished, sadly. The remaining two laid nearly every day for two years before a mysterious ailment caused them both to die.
Meantime we were given an Araucana hen and cockerel. She laid beautiful blue-green eggs for a year and a half, no chicks though despite an enthusiastic cockerel and her tendency to become broody. Haven't seen any eggs for ages so they are now decorative pets who completely free-range and put themselves to bed at night. They are sweet and shy in comparison to the garrulous Black Rocks, although both are okay to handle.
Will restock soon as so miss those eggs! Black Rocks again probably because they are outstandingly productive and I understand there are no incidents of salmonella in the breed. Definitely reckon they repay their keep quickly.
We also tended to give them any leftover beans from meals as there were certain disadvantages to giving these to the dogs!
Chickens aren't really demanding but do need regular daily care.
Sorry these are not tips just the story of our experience.
I see I have cross posted with another Black Rock fan!0 -
HI...I HAVE CHICKENS AND DUCKS...I HAVE HAD BANTAMS AND ALL SORTS OF BREEDS..I HAVE FOUND THAT MY CHICKENS LAY BETWEEN APRIL AND OCTOBER, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER, ALSO IN THE HEIGTH OF SUMMER WHEN IT IS REALLY HOT THEY STOP LAYING, AS IT IS TO HOT TO CONTROL THE TEMP. OF THE EGG TO HATCH THEM...AFTER TAKING IN CONSIDERATION THE PRICE OF THE FOOD, YOU DO NOT SAVE ANY MONEY, INFACT, THEY PROB. END UP COSTING MORE MONEY, THAN IF YOU WENT TO PAY FOR EGGS IN THE SHOP... BUT THE BIG HUGE PLUS TO OWNING CHICKENS... IS THAT I PERSONALLY THINK THEY MAKE GREAT PETS, PLUS YOU KNOW THAT THE CHICKENS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AFTER PROPERLY, AND GOT A NATURAL LIFE, NOT BEING STUCK IN A CAGE, SOLEY TO PRODUCE EGGS FOR US... PLUS THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO THE SHOP BOUGHT EGGS EVEN THE SO CALLED FREE RANGE ORGANIC EGGS......WHY DONT YOU GO TO THE LIBERY AND GET SOME BOOKS ON KEEPING CHICKENS, THE AVERAGE PRICE FOR A CHICKEN IS £5.00, BUT IF YOU GO TO YOUR LOCAL AGRICULTURAL FOOD MERCHANTS THEY NORMALLY HAVE NOTICES UP FOR CHICKENS ETC.....REGARDS....COOLTRIKERCHICK :rotfl:Work to live= not live to work0
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When comparing the cost of bought eggs and "homegrown" make sure the shop price is freerange (or even organic) and a convenience store price rather than a big supermarket so you are comparing like with like (though you are unlikely to have a shop as close as your back garden)!
I have waxed lyrical on some of the other chicken threads on the benefits etc so won't repeat much here except to say even after buying eggs in the shops with a long bb date, I had always struggled with properly poaching eggs (i.e. in water not an "egg poacher"). When I poached 2 eggs the other day one was fresh that morning and the other was a couple of days old and the difference was really noticable. Basically if you want a proper poached egg, you need to keep chickens.(conversely v v fresh eggs are a little difficult to hardboil as the shell doesn't come off easily so you need ones from a few days ago for that).
To stand any chance of the chickens saving you money rather than costing you money overall I guess housing is probably the key - make it yourself or buy it secondhand. Don't buy an egglu!
I think with chickens as with vegetables and other things self-sufficient, you won't save that much money - but you will be getting better value-for-money which is what its all about really. Also as someone said on OS the other day, its not just about the cost to you its about the cost to the environment too (e.g. food miles, pollution).:shhh: There's somewhere you can go and get books to read... for free!
:coffee: Rediscover your local library! _party_0 -
Hi, I am a new member.
I kept chickens for many years, and concur with most of the points raised above. Might I suggest that if you want to be really animal-friendly, you get your hens as ex-battery hens? I did this twice, and got more satisfaction and pleasure from seeing these pathetic creatures become 'real ' chickens than any that I bought through small ads or breeders.
Very briefly, large battery producers use hybrid hens ( like Warrens or Hi-Sex ) which produce prodigious amounts of eggs in their first year of laying - often as many as one a day, compared to, say, a pure-bred hen which might lay three eggs a week in the height of the summer. When the hens are a year old, their laying rate reduces and they become uneconomic for the factory farms to keep. They are cleared out, new point-of-lay pullets are bought in, and the 'old' hens are disposed of, to become pet food or even landfill.
The Battery Hen Welfare Trust ( 07773 596 927, or https://www.thehenshouse.co.uk) rehomes ex-battery hens, charging 50p per bird, although they do ask for donations. There are regional coordinators in most areas.
Please do consider rehoming some battery hens - they will lay their socks off for you, and you will be giving them an opportunity to be a real chicken instead of a laying machine.
Good luck with your poultry keeping - and enjoy the eggs!
Good wishes, Mary Cruse0 -
My four girls were given to us as a gift when they were chicks. I'm glad they were - they were destined for a battery farm! :eek: I converted an old playhouse that was at the bottom of our garden and added a fenced run. When we are at home, we let them free in the garden.
They were a couple weeks old when we got them in Easter 2005. They might be a Rhode Island mix. They laid their first eggs in November and are now each laying one egg a day.
I spend £2.20 every two weeks on hay. £8.99 on Layer's mixed corn, £6.50 for Layers pellets and £11.99 on mixed grit every few months.
They are fantastic characters and make great pets for children. I should know, there's an old family pic of me as a four year old carting an enormous hen around underneath my arm.
Fence your bedding plants off - the scratching and general eating of anything succulent and tasty will soon put paid to these!
Oh, and they like 'visiting' the neighbours. Fortunately, mine come to heel when I call, pretty much like a dog, but they do have their stubborn moments!Good, clean fun....MFW #11 2015 £7657 / £88800
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