We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Do HIP's Expire?

I am one of the lucky ones (so far!) to have a buyer for my property, after 6 months of putting it on the market I accepted an offer. This was 9 weeks ago and the buyers solicitors appear to be dragging their feet. Now I’m told that the search part of the dreaded HIP is out of date and now has to be done again at cost to me of £110. Is this true does it expire after 6 months?? I thought the whole HIP package lasted at least a year if not more. :confused:
«13

Comments

  • pawpurrs
    pawpurrs Posts: 3,910 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Most buyers would want to redo the searches as new things crop up all the time (planning applications) however if they want a new one then its up to them to pay........however I wouldnt lose a buyer over it IYSWIM.
    Pawpurrs x ;)
  • Catti
    Catti Posts: 372 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Most Lenders require a search to be 6 months or less at the date of exchange. But usually a buyer would indeed pay!
  • Yes the solicitor asked would I be willing to pay for another search. Its a cost I could do without but agreed to try and speed things up. Even so people taking a HIP out should be aware of this. The search part should be done when someone accepts an offer not before. The process has got no quicker with HIPs
  • Mark-W_2
    Mark-W_2 Posts: 100 Forumite
    The point of the hip was the searches were valid for the duration the property is marketed.
    If the mortgage providers are now saying they need to be refreshed every 6 months i want my £305 back.
  • The position has always been that local searches more than 2-3 months old were not considered acceptable. Most lenders will accept a search validation insurance policy which is quite cheap to obtain - perhaps £30-£40 for most average value properties (not in London or Sandbanks). I've found when acting for buyers that sellers' solicitors simply refuse to pay for anything saying it is up to the buyer if he wants a more up to date search. Then the buyer has to make a fuss and threaten to withdraw etc and for the cost of a validation policy it is scarcely worth that.

    The drainage search is not really vital in most cases so I wouldn't normally bother worrying about how old that was.

    If you are selling you can't leave doing the local search until you have a buyer as that is breach of the HIP regulations, but does show how silly the whole scheme is.

    Although there is a marginal advantage in having the result of the local search available, it is quite rare that there is something in it that makes a difference to a buyer's decision as to whether or not he should proceed, so why have it in the HIP or why have a HIP in the first place?

    The government got the idea into its heads that they could do something about house buying and selling, wouldn't listen to those actually involved with the process, and gradually the scheme unravelled to what we have now....
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • The whole Hip pack including the EP measurement which they got completely wrong is the biggest waste of money ever. I wish I could have them for miss-selling, I was not made aware of the facts, just told I would have to have one or get fined. If you put the words "HIP waste of money "into google there are many who agree.
  • Catti
    Catti Posts: 372 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    I suspect that Richard is in agreement with me - I have found no help at all with HIP packages - especially as local searches rarely take any length of time and it is frequently the mortgage offer that holds things up rather than a search!
  • Hello everyone. This is my first post!

    What I would like to know is: we signed up for one in January when house went on market & deferred the £406 payment for 10 months. It is now due but the house hasn't sold yet. Is there anyway of getting out of this large payment until the house has actually sold? Just seems really unfair demanding this money when since January we've only had 4 viewings in total anyway :confused:

    When I phoned them they said they could send round debt collectors but not sure if this is just a scare tactic?
  • Jorgan_2
    Jorgan_2 Posts: 2,270 Forumite
    Hello everyone. This is my first post!

    What I would like to know is: we signed up for one in January when house went on market & deferred the £406 payment for 10 months. It is now due but the house hasn't sold yet. Is there anyway of getting out of this large payment until the house has actually sold? Just seems really unfair demanding this money when since January we've only had 4 viewings in total anyway :confused:

    When I phoned them they said they could send round debt collectors but not sure if this is just a scare tactic?

    Sorry, who is 'them'? A HIP company, estate agents or solicitors? You will need to check what you have signed to see if there is a way around this issue.
  • "Them" are 'HIP Payment Services' (https://www.hippayment.com)

    :o
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.