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lunar
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As I am sat at home on my maternity leave I have been looking around on the boards more than I normally do. I know this is a very difficult time financially for everyone. Im not sure where this post really belongs, so im adding it to DFW as this is my home.
People in debt are facing increaced interest payments, people who saved for houses are loosing thousands in equity and are struggling with increased bills, and those savvy enough to have savings are living in fear that they may face the possibility of them being frozen in failing banks.
Martin and the MSE team seem to be getting a really hard time across some of the boards. I imagin people with savings are terrified of loosing money that not too long ago we all thought was 100% secure and are looking for who to blame. We are all responsible for our choices in life, I got myself into a horrendous level of debt and am working hard as are many to get out of it. If it wasnt for seeing Martin on tv i would never have found this site and i have no doubt my situation would have become ever worse until i was declared bankrupt. Even then i dont think i would have learned my lesson on how to live within my means without all the support on here.
I dont even blame the 'greedy' bankers for todays troubles, its human nature to push our limits and take risks. The people in the banking world at the top are there because they took risks that paid profits and made everyone money. Lets face it nobody gets to the top by going against the grain and saying no when there is money to be made, and if they ever did im sure they would be replaced by someone who is seen to make more profit for shareholders.
The one thing I do think could have been done to prevent this mess is to never have let individuals build up so much debt, that in many cases it was never realistic they could pay back. At my LBM my minimum debt payments were more than half my wage. I know im 100% to blame for spending what i did and am now paying back every penny i have borrowed. I really dont think I should have had access to that level of debt, and neither should anyone else. The government needs to answer for this and take some responsibility.
Since joining this site I have paid of more than half my debt, learned to live within my means, reduce my household bills and interest rates. More to the point I havent handed over a credit card to make a single payment in over a year now. That it not to say i have blindly followed every suggestion I have seen posted on the site, I have made choices based on my lifestyle and what is right for me.
We all need to be responsible for our own decissions, if you take the highest risk for the highest reward its just that the highest risk. the warnings on savings and compensation are there for everyne to read, it just seems people will read the benifits to themselves but not the possible pitfalls.
Martin and this site are not responsible for money anyone may loose through todays banking crisis. So I just wanted to post some support for the site and people who have helped me so much. Now is not the time to find one person to blame, the current situation will effect everyone for years to come and i really hope martin and his team will be there to help us through it.
Thank you for reading my long rant, really sorry about the spelling, not got the spell check working at the min!
People in debt are facing increaced interest payments, people who saved for houses are loosing thousands in equity and are struggling with increased bills, and those savvy enough to have savings are living in fear that they may face the possibility of them being frozen in failing banks.
Martin and the MSE team seem to be getting a really hard time across some of the boards. I imagin people with savings are terrified of loosing money that not too long ago we all thought was 100% secure and are looking for who to blame. We are all responsible for our choices in life, I got myself into a horrendous level of debt and am working hard as are many to get out of it. If it wasnt for seeing Martin on tv i would never have found this site and i have no doubt my situation would have become ever worse until i was declared bankrupt. Even then i dont think i would have learned my lesson on how to live within my means without all the support on here.
I dont even blame the 'greedy' bankers for todays troubles, its human nature to push our limits and take risks. The people in the banking world at the top are there because they took risks that paid profits and made everyone money. Lets face it nobody gets to the top by going against the grain and saying no when there is money to be made, and if they ever did im sure they would be replaced by someone who is seen to make more profit for shareholders.
The one thing I do think could have been done to prevent this mess is to never have let individuals build up so much debt, that in many cases it was never realistic they could pay back. At my LBM my minimum debt payments were more than half my wage. I know im 100% to blame for spending what i did and am now paying back every penny i have borrowed. I really dont think I should have had access to that level of debt, and neither should anyone else. The government needs to answer for this and take some responsibility.
Since joining this site I have paid of more than half my debt, learned to live within my means, reduce my household bills and interest rates. More to the point I havent handed over a credit card to make a single payment in over a year now. That it not to say i have blindly followed every suggestion I have seen posted on the site, I have made choices based on my lifestyle and what is right for me.
We all need to be responsible for our own decissions, if you take the highest risk for the highest reward its just that the highest risk. the warnings on savings and compensation are there for everyne to read, it just seems people will read the benifits to themselves but not the possible pitfalls.
Martin and this site are not responsible for money anyone may loose through todays banking crisis. So I just wanted to post some support for the site and people who have helped me so much. Now is not the time to find one person to blame, the current situation will effect everyone for years to come and i really hope martin and his team will be there to help us through it.
Thank you for reading my long rant, really sorry about the spelling, not got the spell check working at the min!
DFW NERD NO.656 DEBT FREE 24TH NOVEMBER 2010 TOTAL DEBT AUGUST 2007 £39000
MFiT T2 NO.56 WE OWN [STRIKE]25%[/STRIKE] 31.5% OF OUR HOUSE SO FAR!
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Lunar
My granny would say 'you made your bed, now lie in it' or 'you pays the piper for the music he plays for you' and both remind me that my choices have consequences that I am responsible for.
Cat.xDFW Nerd Club #545 Dealing With Our Debtnever attribute anything to malice which can be adequately explained by stupidity, [paranoia or ignorance] - ZTD&[cat]
the thing about unwritten laws is that everyone has to agree to them before they can work - *louise*
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Good post lunar :T
I totally agree with you... and I think we're trendsetters, living frugally and paying these debts off so that we can live without being dependent on credit...
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It was horrible to watch Jon Snow last night try and get Martin worked up. Having read Martin's blogs and getting an inkling of how hard he works so he can help the rest of the general public save money - so far as I recall - it has never been said 'put all your life savings in X account'. If I see Jon Snow on his bike again I might put a stick in between his spokes. grr.
Good grief. If people wanted that sort of info you need to see an IFA, or do your own research beyond who has the best rate <at the time>!
I do though find it incredible that bankers especially and company chiefs get paid so much - for what exactly? If they made so many $ - where has it gone? And I am so going to buy some shares with my spare pennies while they are so cheap!0 -
What galls me, and that's a gross understatement, is that now the risks have become reality, it's not just the people who took those risks having to pay for them - it's all of us ordinary people, the ones in minimum wage jobs, and those of us earning around average salaries who have to pay as well, and we can afford it far less than those whose actions caused it can.
The people who took those risks also took the obscenely huge rewards that went with them, but we didn't get a share of that, did we? No, we only get to share the "punishment" for it all going horribly wrong.0 -
I completly agree with your post Cat, we all make our own decisions. some are right some are wrong. we just live in this blame/compensation culture where everything is someone elses fault.DFW NERD NO.656 DEBT FREE 24TH NOVEMBER 2010 TOTAL DEBT AUGUST 2007 £39000MFiT T2 NO.56 WE OWN [STRIKE]25%[/STRIKE] 31.5% OF OUR HOUSE SO FAR!0
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Excellent post lunar, I have only praise for Martin and others at MSE central.
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Thanks lunar
That was really nice to hear.
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Well said Lunar. If it wasn't for the help of this site a couple of years back I am pretty sure I would be in complete and utter serious doo doo right now.
Thankfully, through some fantastic advice on these boards, I took steps to halt my downward decline.
I must admit I listen avidly to everything Martin says (and read all the e-mails) but ultimately know that whatever decision I make with regards to finances is MINE to make. And MY responsibility. He just makes it easier for me to understand!
More power to Martin Lewis is what I say!!
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I've obviously missed something, why have people been giving Martin stick?Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.0
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They are blaming him for making them put all their money into iceland banks, when there were plenty of warnings about risks and safety precautions to take. People just dont want to take responsibiltiy for their decisions and should have researched more carefuly where they were saving money.
I really hope nobody looses money over this, but even if they do there is no way this site can be to blame.DFW NERD NO.656 DEBT FREE 24TH NOVEMBER 2010 TOTAL DEBT AUGUST 2007 £39000MFiT T2 NO.56 WE OWN [STRIKE]25%[/STRIKE] 31.5% OF OUR HOUSE SO FAR!0
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