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Solar water heating, how much??
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I was interested in what Cardew said just not the tone in which he said it. I found it too confrontational thats all. We all have our different views but I thought this was supposed to be a friendly site0
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i know he/she isn't exactly my best buddy!What goes around - comes around
give lots and you will always recieve lots0 -
So far I have been called, self delusional, silly, mistaken, and misleading. Your rudeness about the 'chocolate analogy' speaks more about you than me. I could have spent the money on a bigger car, dancing lessons or a holiday to Disneyland. I chose to use my money on something which works where I live on a day by day basis, and since I am the one sitting in my kitchen in my, very well insulated house, with the cheapest green car, with all energy saving bulbs and draft excluders et al, I will choose to ignore the somewhat dinosaur attitudes. Friendly this has not been, and I think it will be my last post.0
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Well I've had solar panels for almost 7 years now and believe me they've saved me a fortune - my gas bill's never been any more than £50 a year
In my old property it was £50+ a quarter. You really can't afford not to have them 
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Annscullamus, don't let Cardew put you off posting on the site ! Thankfully, one bad apple don't spoil the whole lot.....0
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annscullamus wrote: »So far I have been called, self delusional, silly, mistaken, and misleading.
Regrettably, I think that is a fair assessment of your input to this particular thread.
How you spend your money is absolutely your business and your business alone; who has said otherwise? I am also sure that you wonderfully environmentally aware!
What is reprehensible is that you mislead others on this forum about the potential savings of solar systems.
It is the message that is important – and that message is that you are wrong about savings. It really is irrelevant if you and your ‘buddy’ don’t appreciate the manner in which you are given that message.
As for the ‘there there don’t get upset, Cardew’s a bad apple’ comment – is this forum for adults? To make you both happy I have awarded you a nice electronic ‘thanks’ in lieu of a gold star for your exercise book.0 -
Anyway the point of this thread is to give costs for Mr and Mrs Average in UK and most people will pay £2,000 to £3,000 and annual savings will be in the region of £50-£75 and it makes no sense in economic terms.
I think this is the whole point.
Some "green" things are cheaper and good for the environment - compact fluorescent bulbs, buying veg from a local market, getting a smaller car, not eating ready meals, insulating your loft, etc.
The problem with these ideas is that other people think you are poor, rather than green.
Now we have to keep up with the ecological Joneses, people want to spend huge amounts of money on flashy things - solar panels, wind turbines, Priuses. Basically, anything marketed as green without looking at the real facts.
The way to be green is to buy less of everything. Not to buy some solar panels, whilst driving around in a big car and going on three holidays a year. :mad:
How much of the £3,000 is to save the earth and how much is to ease your guilt?
(I'm not having a go at anyone in this thread, just more generally about society. And I'm in a bit of a tired, ranty mood!)0 -
longforgotten wrote: »And you've proved you're a wind up merchant!
Cardew is stating the truth.
His tone may not be the most friendly in the world, but you can't blame him considering the amount of drivel we have to put up with on this board.
And I really detest people using phrases like "And you've proved", if you want to prove something you need to give examples, not use an implied generalisation.0 -
I would dearly love to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff on this issue
But then again, I think the facts still suggest that it is small stuff like draught insultaion that have more impact than big stuff like double glazing and solar panels0 -
It is official: Retail prices are going up at 4.8%
This means that I need to get 6% before tax from my savings account, to avoid going backwards.
Please can someone point me at a "risk free" investment that pays a real rate of interest.
Perhaps we should stick a black radiator on the roof now, while we can still afford to buy one ? So saving the need to buy foreign LPG, when we can nolonger afford the watery stuff with its low heat content per GBP?
Harry
(This message comes to you from "Houndhovel", what the energy saving trust calls a "difficult" case. No gas mains and detatched in a field.)0
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