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Sling the salt

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  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    And yet the salt industry regularly campaign and lobby the Government against FSA advice, stating it is too high...

    Rather than preach, how about acting? ;):D
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  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    catowen wrote:
    When making my bread, i only add a small amount of salt (less than recomended) and it always turns out lovely. The only other time i use salt is on chips!!!!!
    My mum always used to put salt in with the potato water, but has stopped now, after i said i didnt do it, and couldnt tell the difference, she agrees now!!!!
    Cutting out 'extra' salt alone is not enough... You need to watch your labels... The 'average' person not adding salt to food etc will still be taking in somewhere in the region of 9-11g salt a day...
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  • AnniMag
    AnniMag Posts: 48 Forumite
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    My DH can tell instantly[and correctly]when I have forgotten to put salt in the bread. He says it has an unpleasant sweet taste and initially said I had put double the amount of sugar in.I can get away with 1/2tsp salt rather than a level tsp though.
  • LizEstelle
    LizEstelle Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    DrFluffy wrote:
    And yet the salt industry regularly campaign and lobby the Government against FSA advice, stating it is too low...

    Rather than preach, how about acting? ;):D

    Spot on DF.

    IMHO the FSA has sold out in its recent pronouncements and the Govt ministers have gone native with the processed food manufacturers. After all the fine intentions, we have back-tracking, BIG time.

    In the circumstances, all I can do is look to saving myself and telling everyone I know about the dangers of excess salt until I'm blue in the face.

    I usually get the answer back - 'oh, it loses its taste without salt' - to which my answer is 'don't be lazy and make the effort'. It's just a question of getting used to the new taste.

    These days, whenever I inadvertently chew on something which has added salt, my taste buds (and face) screw up instantly in disgust...

    (By the way, 'FSA' here has nothing to do with financial services and everything to do with food safety!)
  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    The FSA are in a difficult position - they do not report directly to any one minister, which, it a great thing as it allows it to act in the best interests of the country, how ever it means the cogs generally turn a lot more slowly... Also there are some populations who need more than 6g of salt, so you could never legislate...

    That said - name me another country campaigning against excess dietary salt to such a degree...
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  • LizEstelle
    LizEstelle Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    A difficult position, yes, but they needn't be so lily-livered. Quite blatantly, they've backed down because of quiet words in ears and I find their unwillingness to champion the cause quite distasteful.

    We're talking people's LIVES here on large scale, as you're probably aware, not some amorphous issue of taste preference - which, let's face it, is pretty well all that the food 'manufacturers' argument amounts to.

    Yes, the topic has had some airing in the media but I'd scarcely say that the whole country is in a state of grippedness by the so-called 'campaign'.

    By the way, what max. level do you advise looking for in Na/100g on processed food labelling? I've been told anything over 0.2g is in the danger area. Have you SEEN just how many labels come in at this level or under..??!! You don't need too many fingers to count them!
  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    Knowing what they are up to at the moment, and how much money they are putting into salt research, to provide the evidence base a definite decision requires, I would call them anything other than lily-livered.

    If you contact the Research Co-Ordination Unit, they can send you last years Research and Survey Programmes Annual Report and put you on the mailling list for this years...

    Don't do 'advice' - I'm only a medical student and I haven't worked for the FSA for a while now, but for Na+/100g, I *think* the general rule of thumb = 0.1g salt per 100g product is *ideal* (at least that's the figure that's stuck in my mind!). 0.5g plus salt per100g product = v.v.v bad....

    Plus there's a lot more to hypertension than salt intake, and although education and people taking control of their own health is absolutely fantastic, there is a balance that needs to be addressed...
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  • LizEstelle
    LizEstelle Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    Well, who am I to argue with someone in the know?

    As far as I can tell from stuff already in the public domain, the salt-hypertension link is more or less proven.

    I think we have a parallel case here with the tobacco industry and smoking... and I think they know it. Sooner or later, a whistleblower will emerge to prove the point.

    Can't wait for the legal 'class actions' to start over in the States.

    We, in our usual niggardly fashion, will doubtless follow on the coat tails of the yanks as ever, debating years later just why it took us so long to act while people were dying...

    Yes, we all have to look out for ourselves to an extent... but what the **** do we have governments FOR if it's not, at the very least, to stop us from being poisoned by the million by people who want to make profits on the back of it?
  • LizEstelle
    LizEstelle Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    Having got a bit carried away, I've just realised that I've gone more than somewhat off my own topic!
  • DrFluffy
    DrFluffy Posts: 2,549 Forumite
    LizEstelle wrote:
    Well, who am I to argue with someone in the know?

    As far as I can tell from stuff already in the public domain, the salt-hypertension link is more or less proven.

    I think we have a parallel case here with the tobacco industry and smoking... and I think they know it. Sooner or later, a whistleblower will emerge to prove the point.

    Can't wait for the legal 'class actions' to start over in the States.

    We, in our usual niggardly fashion, will doubtless follow on the coat tails of the yanks as ever, debating years later just why it took us so long to act while people were dying...

    Yes, we all have to look out for ourselves to an extent... but what the **** do we have governments FOR if it's not, at the very least, to stop us from being poisoned by the million by people who want to make profits on the back of it?

    It's far, far, far more complicated than salt = hypertension. Individual genetics and other factors also play a huge part... That said, as I've already mentioned, people taking an interest in their own health and cutting down can only be a good thing...

    Also, salt is increadibly important to life... What makes your heart beat, your muscles contract and metabolism occur? Salt. If people go too far the other way, then the health risks are just as great...
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