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Most introductions are charged at one months rent and most fully managed I have heard of charge between 12.5 and 15% + vat so 9% sounds low.
Maybe go to 3 agents and get their costs, T&Cs and advise - talking to an agent is very much like talking to a tenant you get a gut feeling for them.
If you don't need a high rent just a consistant one then look into guarnteed rental schemes.
Also take into account how far the property is away from you, how much time you and OH have to spare, also if you are away a lot on business / holidays - all these things will mean if you manage yourselves you will need someone else who tenants can contact whilst you are unavailable.0 -
As is going to be repeated over and over again, do your research on the legislation, and call a few LA's and honestly ask them how much demand they get for that potential area, most will be willing to have a chat with you about it, as you are a potential customer.
Be realistic about the price, the biggest mistake landlords make is trying to overvalue a property to cover a mortgage, and end up having to wait to get a tenant, price realistically, and with a bit of comparable research slightly UNDER or ON the market value and ensure the void period on the property is as small as possible, one empty month at a property will cost you more than waiting for someone to take it at a higher price as a general rule. A long term tenancy at a lower rent is far far superior to a short term at a higher price, even without void periods as you still have to repay the LA's fees. Some LA's will value a property too high to sucker you in, only to leave it empty and then get you to drop it to a reasonable level.
The figures you have quoted seem very reasonable, but fees can vary so much from area to area in the UK, its simply easier to phone about and find out for yourself, but bearing that your LA needs to be competant, and should absolutely be a member of an assocation such as ARLA or NALS, OEA etc.
The various options you have being Introduction, Rent Collection, and Full Management are pretty much;
Introduction; LA will market and find a tenant, complete references, advise you of necessary works or pre-tenancy basics (CP12 gas, Inventory etc), draw up a tenancy agreement, and sign the tenant in.
Rent Collection: As above, but the agency will collect the rent on your behalf, and chase up any arrears.
Full Management: The agency will act as proxy landlord and will ensure the essential maintenance is conducted, inspect the property on a regular basis, check the tenants in and out of the property A delegated limit on the cost of these repairs will be agreed with the agent.
The main thing is to understand that an investment property doesn't usually meet a mortgage or exceed it, and that you will subsidise it a little, if not in fees, maintenance, and other miscellaneous. Profits tend to come from when the mortgage is paid off and you no longer have that outgoing.
All this being said, dedicated lettings agencies are getting a good deal at the moment, more property from those who can't sell, and more tenants from those who can't buy, so the market is still strong and will probably continue to do so until the housing market settles down... which is to say.. a while yet.
EDIT: Its usually recommended for first time landlords to take a managed service, if you are feeling lazy about reading up on legislation, but if you are willing to do the work then introduction should be just fine, but take out rent guarantee insurance, with legal costs cover, getting the rent covered is fine, but its the legal costs that will cripple you if you ever need it.0 -
Out of interest why do you feel that you need a letting agent?
This is only my experience but I've come across as many problem tenants / problems with tenancy agreements and notices as I have with properties let by agencies as by landlords directly.
A bit of reading up and I dare say you'll be as knowledgeable as a lot of letting agents on the law.
I appreciate that credit checking may be difficult but no reason why you can't just rely on references from previous landlords.0 -
Troubled_Joe wrote: »...I appreciate that credit checking may be difficult but no reason why you can't just rely on references from previous landlords.0
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NoMoreFaith wrote: ».....EDIT: Its usually recommended for first time landlords to take a managed service, if you are feeling lazy about reading up on legislation......
Because LAs are often as ignorant on some areas of LL &T as a newbie LL might be you cannot guarantee that they will be doing what is required on your behalf. No qualifications, no training, no specific experience, no regulation necessary.0 -
No-one letting property out should be complacent about the legislation involved, even if using a fully managed service: as LL *you* are ultimately responsible if it all goes belly up. Yes, you can try suing the LA for failing to do what you were paying them for, but it's you that the tenant will pursue in the first place.
Because LAs are often as ignorant on some areas of LL &T as a newbie LL might be you cannot guarantee that they will be doing what is required on your behalf. No qualifications, no training, no specific experience, no regulation necessary.
I completely agree noone should be complacent, but as the OP has bought the property already, if he IS lazy, then managed is the way to go, since its too late to think again about the investment. The ideal situation is to be on the ball, and do the research but the honest truth is that most landlords cannot be bothered (majority of the posters excluded).
The choice in agents is an important choice, and hopefully the OP will ask some awkward questions of the agent and see if they can answer competantly regarding legislation, and as said, they should at least be a member of an assocation.0 -
bitsnbytes wrote: »....how do I go about finding a local association?
You can usually get discounts on your LL insurance premiums, plus local builders yards/suppliers etc once you are a member.bitsnbytes wrote: »Most of the agents we have spoken to, do carry out a credit and reference check on the tenant. Will this be sufficient for the rental insurance?0 -
bitsnbytes wrote: »I've recently decided to take the plunge and buy another property to let (as investment). The property is a 1 bed flat, fully furnished with new appliances and furniture and is ready to go on the letting market now.
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OK, first up, have you already BOUGHT the property or are you ABOUT to buy it? Have you signed or paid anything yet?Bankruptcy isn't the worst that can happen to you. The worst that can happen is your forced to live the rest of your life in abject poverty trying to repay the debts.0 -
I think tbs has posted a hugely important point and the importance of it might get lost due to the barage of info so I am going to highlight it because it is SO important.
Where alot of newbie landlords go wrong is that is that they think that if they don't know what to do an LA will and they put all their faith in the LA. What they fail to realise is that ultimately the buck stops with the landlord not the LA. You need to supervise the LA to a certain degree, that doesn't mean defeating the purpose of using a LA but a) don't give them carte blanche to do as they please and b) set up a system for checking that they are doing what they should be doing.
I have picked up the pieces several times for clients who have had the most attrocious service from an agent. Recently, I took over some HMOs where a) the HMO licence had lapsed, agent told the client it had been dealt with, client didn't check, this had far reaching consequences b) the gas safety checks on the flats were not all up to date, one was months overdue, the agent had "forgotten" c) most of the flats did not have inventories d) some the agent had not taken deposits on e) the agent had let to benefit tenants when the client had specifically said no to this as the mortgage did not allow it f) they had allowed the properties to get into a very serious state of disrepair g) the basic requirements for a HMO were not maintained e.g no working fire alarm and emergency lighting f) tenants were in rent arrears, the statements to the client didn't show this so my client thought she had vacant flats and the agent was not being proactive in dealing with the arrears.
I don't think it could have been much worse to be honest and it took me a long time and a lot of my client's money to sort it out. The moral of the story, my client thought the agent was dealing with it. Fortunately, the client didn't face any major consequences other than financial but had a tenant been injured or died as a result of lack of compliance the landlord (my client) would have been responsible.
Select your agent carefully if that is the route you want to go, but ALSO familiarise yourself with the laws and monitor the situation.No-one letting property out should be complacent about the legislation involved, even if using a fully managed service: as LL *you* are ultimately responsible if it all goes belly up. Yes, you can try suing the LA for failing to do what you were paying them for, but it's you that the tenant will pursue in the first place.
Because LAs are often as ignorant on some areas of LL &T as a newbie LL might be you cannot guarantee that they will be doing what is required on your behalf. No qualifications, no training, no specific experience, no regulation necessary.0 -
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OK, first up, have you already BOUGHT the property or are you ABOUT to buy it? Have you signed or paid anything yet?
This has to be the worst thing to do ( buy a property as an investment)
With the worst type of property (a 1 bed flat)
At the worst time ( now)
I wish you all the luck but honestly you are going to lose here, its just a matter of how much.0
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