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monthly interest leaves tax-payers out of pocket

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Dagobert
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  • Stonk
    Stonk Posts: 951 Forumite
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    Nice one. I had never thought of that before, but it makes perfect sense when you think about it. In (relatively) layman's terms, the AER is calculated by assuming interest is received on the interest already paid, but if tax is taken off at each step then this interest-on-interest component of the total interest is reduced.

    So, in order to meet their advertised AERs, monthly interest accounts should pay interest gross and then deduct the tax at the end of the year.
  • Dagobert
    Dagobert Posts: 1,625 Forumite
    Stonk wrote:
    So, in order to meet their advertised AERs, monthly interest accounts should pay interest gross and then deduct the tax at the end of the year.
    That, of course, isn't possible because in order to comply with tax legislation the banks need to deduct tax at source when interest arises.

    The main point you can take from these calculations is that the grossed net annual equivalent rate (agn) is the figure to use for comparisons.
    Dagobert
  • Plasticman
    Plasticman Posts: 2,547 Forumite
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    Excellent post - although I must admit that I'm not really in the mood to check out the maths! It's a small enough difference to be irrelevant for small savings but if people have a large amount of money in their savings account it's worth considering.


    Thankfully my wife isn't a tax payer at the moment so she has all of our money and we don't have to worry about tax (although I do have to worry about her leaving the country :rolleyes: )
  • YorkshireBoy
    YorkshireBoy Posts: 31,541 Forumite
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    Plasticman wrote:
    (although I do have to worry about her leaving the country :rolleyes: )
    I find that retaining ownership of the account passwords suffices to prevent this happening. ;)
  • Well, I might be losing some money here but I've more than made up for it with "Free" Rump Steaks and Organic Lamb Chops from Tesco in the last 5 days....:j
  • Dagobert
    Dagobert Posts: 1,625 Forumite
    Plasticman wrote:
    It's a small enough difference to be irrelevant for small savings but if people have a large amount of money in their savings account it's worth considering.

    I wasn't seriously advocating against monthly interest accounts on the basis of such a small difference.

    I had just been wondering the other day what effect tax deduction might have on interest, got carried away with the calculations, and thought I might just as well post my newly found wisdom here.
    Dagobert
  • Dagobert wrote:
    I wasn't seriously advocating against monthly interest accounts on the basis of such a small difference.

    You obviously hadn't realised how mean I am :D
  • I find that retaining ownership of the account passwords suffices to prevent this happening. ;)


    Joking aside, that's not really a good idea if you happen to walk in front of a bus, say....
    Ethical moneysaver
  • Joking aside, that's not really a good idea if you happen to walk in front of a bus, say....

    Can't speak for YB but I keep a record of all accounts that we have so that OH would know the details if that damn bus ever got me. My parents hold this so if anything happened to us both somebody knows where it is too! It doesn't have usernames and passwords but, as the account holder, OH would be able to contact the bank to get these re-issued if needed.
  • I don't get it. £492,91 is more than £432.00. Surely it is *better* to have the interest paid monthly?

    RD
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