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Government doesn't want the mother to stay at home.
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robindunne1
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Written this letter to my MP. What do you all think???
Dear Sir / Madam,
I read with interest the latest government plans to extend the number of weeks maternity leave for working mothers. While I applaud the governments attempt to benefit those with children, there are a number of issues which never seem to be addressed.
There's a discrepancy in the way tax credits are worked out in one income families – as it is worked out on pre tax earnings. A two income couple will bring home over a £1,600 a year more in take-home cash than a one income family yet they are assessed on the same joint income. For example
1 Income family:
Gross Salary: £20,000
Tax: £3,113
National Insurance: £1,493
Net: £15,394
2 Income family:
Parent 1 Parent 2
Gross Salary: £10,000 £10,000
Tax: £913 £913
National Insurance: £553 £553
Net: £8,532 £8,532 Total take home combined pay: £17.064
That’s a difference of £1,670! That’s £32 per week! and yet they will receive the same tax credits. I’m sure you’ll agree that £32 per week is a big difference to a struggling family with young children. Currently, tax credits applicants have to report an increase of £2,000 to reassess the tax credit award. The difference in the take home pay, grossed up for tax and NI purposes is £2,420 in the example above – and yet the government ignores it!
This has annoyed me for years. My wife stays at home to look after the family but I don't see any of her tax allowance. It seems the government are doing everything to help families with two parents that work - extended maternity leave, child care tax credits etc...., but those with one income don't get a look in.
Is the government forcing the mother out to work, or will it take steps to allow single income families the tax breaks that the whole family deserves.
Also, Families with a stay at home mother do not receive the single persons council tax rebate either. Surely this is a tax based on the households ability to pay. A single persons allowance is given because they have one income, yet when the mother doesn’t go out to work and the family still has one income, the full council tax is required – which is completely unjust and unfair.
If a family on a single income lived in the average Band D property and received the single persons allowance together with initial allowances for Income Tax and National Insurance for both parents, they would be better off by over £37 per week!
I’m sure there are millions of families in this country in a similar situation and are being taxed unfairly. Why can’t the government please take into account the income of the family rather than just the number of people who work in that family – surely this is the fairest way. I know that if I was self employed my accountant would use both allowances, but as I work full time (for the government I might add) and pay my tax thought the PAYE system I pay more tax.
It seems the government penalises those families who are interested in looking after their children more than just financially. Surely the best person to look after a child is its mother (or father) yet the government promotes the idea that both parents should leave the home to work.
I just wish I could spend the money I earn rather than the tax I spend being recycled back to me through child benefit and tax credits. I work in government and know how much these systems costs to administrate. I hope the government will look into this and stop penalising those families that really care for their children.
Dear Sir / Madam,
I read with interest the latest government plans to extend the number of weeks maternity leave for working mothers. While I applaud the governments attempt to benefit those with children, there are a number of issues which never seem to be addressed.
There's a discrepancy in the way tax credits are worked out in one income families – as it is worked out on pre tax earnings. A two income couple will bring home over a £1,600 a year more in take-home cash than a one income family yet they are assessed on the same joint income. For example
1 Income family:
Gross Salary: £20,000
Tax: £3,113
National Insurance: £1,493
Net: £15,394
2 Income family:
Parent 1 Parent 2
Gross Salary: £10,000 £10,000
Tax: £913 £913
National Insurance: £553 £553
Net: £8,532 £8,532 Total take home combined pay: £17.064
That’s a difference of £1,670! That’s £32 per week! and yet they will receive the same tax credits. I’m sure you’ll agree that £32 per week is a big difference to a struggling family with young children. Currently, tax credits applicants have to report an increase of £2,000 to reassess the tax credit award. The difference in the take home pay, grossed up for tax and NI purposes is £2,420 in the example above – and yet the government ignores it!
This has annoyed me for years. My wife stays at home to look after the family but I don't see any of her tax allowance. It seems the government are doing everything to help families with two parents that work - extended maternity leave, child care tax credits etc...., but those with one income don't get a look in.
Is the government forcing the mother out to work, or will it take steps to allow single income families the tax breaks that the whole family deserves.
Also, Families with a stay at home mother do not receive the single persons council tax rebate either. Surely this is a tax based on the households ability to pay. A single persons allowance is given because they have one income, yet when the mother doesn’t go out to work and the family still has one income, the full council tax is required – which is completely unjust and unfair.
If a family on a single income lived in the average Band D property and received the single persons allowance together with initial allowances for Income Tax and National Insurance for both parents, they would be better off by over £37 per week!
I’m sure there are millions of families in this country in a similar situation and are being taxed unfairly. Why can’t the government please take into account the income of the family rather than just the number of people who work in that family – surely this is the fairest way. I know that if I was self employed my accountant would use both allowances, but as I work full time (for the government I might add) and pay my tax thought the PAYE system I pay more tax.
It seems the government penalises those families who are interested in looking after their children more than just financially. Surely the best person to look after a child is its mother (or father) yet the government promotes the idea that both parents should leave the home to work.
I just wish I could spend the money I earn rather than the tax I spend being recycled back to me through child benefit and tax credits. I work in government and know how much these systems costs to administrate. I hope the government will look into this and stop penalising those families that really care for their children.
Giving up is easy...... just keep on trying!
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Good luck with your fight. Ive noticed the same, for the past 15-20 years the government have gradually taking away womens choice as to whether they work after childbirth or stay at home to look after their children. Now it has got to the stage where it is impossible for mothers to stay at home and anywhere near 'keep up with the Joneses'. The reason why the government want us all that way, is because they want to create as many non questioning worker bees as possible to ensure that the government machine keeps turning.
Its not just stay at home mums that the government want to discourage. They also want to discourage people having second jobs, by the way the taxation system works for most people it isnt worth getting a second job. Same with self employment and the newish regulations on that ensuring that a series of hoops are set in place to reduce the number of people able to work independantly.
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Excellent points all through your letter. As a case in point, I have just had to get a job after being a SAHM for 18 years - we made the decision before having children that one of their parents (me
) should stay at home to bring them up and that is what happened until now. Sadly we can no longer manage on a single wage, as costs are rising far faster than income, so our youngest is missing out on the benefits his older siblings had :mad: I especially agree with the point about being able to transfer tax allowances between spouses - it seems only fair. I think the Government is actually quite short-sighted when it comes to those of us who not only prefer to raise our own children, but also contribute to society in lots of other ways which salary-slaves have neither the time nor energy to do - voluntary work, looking after elderly relatives/neighbours, etc. thus actually saving the state from having to pay someone to do those things.
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