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The horrible truth is that you have to have something special to show to get 'special' earnings. Whilst I mean no disrespect, if your experience is in an area where any old joe can make a stab at it and minimum wage is common - you just have to accept that you won't get well paid. It does not matter how good you are, chances are that an employer will sooner take a risk with inexperience than pay more for the veteran. If you want more, you simply are forced to look for something else that is both 'in-demand' and is not something someone else can easily do. The real problem is that this also forces one to be paid poorly (initially) because you either have to take time out to train or accept a low wage until you gain experience on the job. You really just have to decide whether you are willing to commit to improving yourself and whether you are capable of it - the return to boomtime will not suddenly have you earning £30k, only hard work will achieve this.Always overestimating...0
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friend was at a jobs fair here in Belfast last month.
loads of companies advertising themselves - not one had any jobs!
why bother with a jobs fair?
the people who organised the fair get funding to do so.
where does this funding come from - our tax money!Groceries challenge
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The horrible truth is that you have to have something special to show to get 'special' earnings. Whilst I mean no disrespect, if your experience is in an area where any old joe can make a stab at it and minimum wage is common - you just have to accept that you won't get well paid. It does not matter how good you are, chances are that an employer will sooner take a risk with inexperience than pay more for the veteran. If you want more, you simply are forced to look for something else that is both 'in-demand' and is not something someone else can easily do. The real problem is that this also forces one to be paid poorly (initially) because you either have to take time out to train or accept a low wage until you gain experience on the job. You really just have to decide whether you are willing to commit to improving yourself and whether you are capable of it - the return to boomtime will not suddenly have you earning £30k, only hard work will achieve this.
In todays market, it doesn't matter if you could design and launch the next lunar voyager, there is no work out there
3 x Staff Nurses (Listed in wrong town)
1 x Drop Driver (Min wage)
1 x Sales Administrator (Min wage)
3 x Counter staff jobs for chip shops (Min wage)
Thats what you have, you may have went to uni for upteen amount of years, studied your heart out and thats what you had in the Cookstown area last weekThis is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
The horrible truth is that you have to have something special to show to get 'special' earnings. Whilst I mean no disrespect, if your experience is in an area where any old joe can make a stab at it and minimum wage is common - you just have to accept that you won't get well paid. It does not matter how good you are, chances are that an employer will sooner take a risk with inexperience than pay more for the veteran. If you want more, you simply are forced to look for something else that is both 'in-demand' and is not something someone else can easily do. The real problem is that this also forces one to be paid poorly (initially) because you either have to take time out to train or accept a low wage until you gain experience on the job. You really just have to decide whether you are willing to commit to improving yourself and whether you are capable of it - the return to boomtime will not suddenly have you earning £30k, only hard work will achieve this.
How are you supposed to know what that "special" thing is? There are plenty of graduates and professionally qualified people without work. Please tell us what profession is immune to the recession so that us very unspecial people can go and retrain in it.0 -
were does the average salary of 25k come from? that seems a bit high? i know the average graduate scheme jobs in northern ireland are around 20k? also there is a difference in what people in long term jobs from yonder year get paid and those now.
for example my dad is on a good salary with a good pension but if he was to start now then the job would not start on as competitive a salary nor would you get rewarded with yearly increase as bygone years. hence why companies try to get some staff to take early retirement. there is also a difference now in the age of retirement etc.
the jobs thing is rubbish. i really feel for every single person looking. there just isn't the job availablility over here. hopefully some of the governments initiatives to increase employment in northern ireland in the private sector will happen. ie that it won;t be just talk and this is from someone who works for government.
look at invest ni for example giving x-millions to ventura who then !!!!!!ed off with the money and they weren't able to recoup any. hello that could have went to creating more jobs in other sector etc.
i could go on a rant about mep's and mp's and expenses etc and how that money could be re-directed. so much waste that could be used for good.MFW 148 - Mortgage £121,000 1Jan11 / Mortgage £120,300 28Jan11 / £119,808 24Feb11 / £119,400 22 April11 / £119,089 29 May11 / £118,500 October110 -
I dont know much about bar/waitress work but dont under estimate cleaning - you know the saying "where theres dirt theres money". Although I am a qualified legal secretary I worked as a cleaner for 8 years whilst my children were growing up and there are some advantages. Quite often these jobs are a bit flexible can be fitted in around school times or whatever as long as you do the job properly.
1. Its not rocket science to push around a hoover, empty a few bins and dust.
2. More often than not you dont have to do the hours you are paid for if you can complete the job efficently in less time, and in effect you will then be earning more an hour, if you see what I mean.
However, the downside is that if you do this work for too long, it is hard to get back to the job you really want as some employers cant get past the fact you are a cleaner but having said that the way things are nowadays at least they can see you are willing to work.2008£3002009£13002010£15002011£41952012£21942013£1494
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nirelandguy wrote: »In todays market, it doesn't matter if you could design and launch the next lunar voyager, there is no work out there
3 x Staff Nurses (Listed in wrong town)
1 x Drop Driver (Min wage)
1 x Sales Administrator (Min wage)
3 x Counter staff jobs for chip shops (Min wage)
Thats what you have, you may have went to uni for upteen amount of years, studied your heart out and thats what you had in the Cookstown area last week
Well I found other jobs on the sites I noted, simply by searching for cookstown. That ignores all of those where they don't mention the location in the bulk text. Accountant, HR manager, financial controller - there are not all that many but you have an extremely narrow search. You could be the most talented footballer on the planet, but if you aren't willing to move away from cookstown, chances are you won't be earning very much!!
You need to broaden your search and you need to be willing to make some sacrifices. I have a BSc and PhD and have a bunch of experience useful outside of academia but I have had to relocate away from Belfast. Very few people can expect the jobs to come to them and it is clear that you and I definitely cannot hope for it.Always overestimating...0 -
How are you supposed to know what that "special" thing is? There are plenty of graduates and professionally qualified people without work. Please tell us what profession is immune to the recession so that us very unspecial people can go and retrain in it.
You have to do your research. You have to know where your talents lie and you need to identify which of them are valuable. Then you have to work on it. The problem with graduates and 'professionally qualified people' is that they are often pidgeon holed or do so to themselves. Having a degree in history, for instance, probably puts you into the bracket of 'McDegree' for most employers - you have demonstrated that you can work but chances are you have no skill particularly useful to them and thus you don't stand out. Maybe you have a 3rd class hons in media studies - frankly, you might have a degree but it means almost nothing. You cannot expect to start in a good job, you have to accept that you probably will be looking at non-grad jobs. Many grads can't accept this and end up with nothing. Then the professionals - it is all well and good to be a conveyancing solicitor when there is a boom, but this is a recession and people aren't buying houses. You have to broaden your appeal as opposed to just plugging away hoping that life will get better.
It is almost impossible for me to suggest what someone on here should do to improve their chances - I just don't have adequate background on you. I could do it but, with a bit of work, you can probably make that assessment better.Always overestimating...0 -
Well I found other jobs on the sites I noted, simply by searching for cookstown. That ignores all of those where they don't mention the location in the bulk text. Accountant, HR manager, financial controller - there are not all that many but you have an extremely narrow search. You could be the most talented footballer on the planet, but if you aren't willing to move away from cookstown, chances are you won't be earning very much!!
You need to broaden your search and you need to be willing to make some sacrifices. I have a BSc and PhD and have a bunch of experience useful outside of academia but I have had to relocate away from Belfast. Very few people can expect the jobs to come to them and it is clear that you and I definitely cannot hope for it.
Very true, but its not possible, So I may make do with whats local, can't drive eitherThis is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
If anyone has a good standard of education and is twiddling their thumbs then I suggest they train themselves up to tutor for the new 11-plus exams. A large proportion of P6 kids get tutored. The going rate is 25 a hour. Tutoring is also in demand for the sciences, particularly chemistry and physics A-level. I don't know about other subjects. The going rate for A-level tuition is 30 a hour.Stercus accidit0
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