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What rights do tenants want?

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  • Gorgeous_George
    Gorgeous_George Posts: 7,964 Forumite
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    Tenants want the right to post threads in the wrong forum.

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  • carolt
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    Isn't it entertaining - and instructive - to note how a thread asking 'what tenants want' is immediately taken over by landlords, purporting to know what tenants want better than they do, and attempting to turn the thread into a 'what landlords want' thread - as if there weren't enough of those already. :rolleyes:

    Actually guys, I don't need your 'help' to know what I want. Thanks.
  • ukcarper
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    I think the problem is that landlords are in it for the money and when the tenants get more rights than they think they deserve or they in pack on their profits they will get out
  • olly300
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    I think the problem is that landlords are in it for the money and when the tenants get more rights than they think they deserve or they in pack on their profits they will get out

    Of course they are in it for the money. It's a business.

    However decent landlords - and they exist - know to have a viable business they need to keep their customers, the tenants, happy.

    I've rented from a landlord due to word of mouth, and have given out the name of another landlord due to their decent behaviour.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • carolt
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    I think the problem is that landlords are in it for the money and when the tenants get more rights than they think they deserve or they in pack on their profits they will get out

    How curious; what rights do tenants 'deserve' then?

    Less than other folks, I take it from your tone.

    Nice to hear the true voice of greed talking though; frankly comes across as a lot more authentic than all this 'we're providing a public service' rubbish that some BTL landlords on here like to spout.


    Would I be sad, as a tenant, if landlords en masse decided to sell up?

    Hardly - I'd be over the moon. Lots more property back in the market for families to buy, rather than rent.

    Bring it on.
  • ukcarper
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    olly300 wrote: »
    Of course they are in it for the money. It's a business.

    However decent landlords - and they exist - know to have a viable business they need to keep their customers, the tenants, happy.

    I've rented from a landlord due to word of mouth, and have given out the name of another landlord due to their decent behaviour.
    I don’t mean landlords are wrong to want to make money what I mean is that the rights of Landlords and tenants need to be balanced
  • silvercar
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    carolt wrote: »
    Isn't it entertaining - and instructive - to note how a thread asking 'what tenants want' is immediately taken over by landlords, purporting to know what tenants want better than they do, and attempting to turn the thread into a 'what landlords want' thread - as if there weren't enough of those already. :rolleyes:

    Actually guys, I don't need your 'help' to know what I want. Thanks.

    Most landlords were once tenants; some are tenants and landlords at the same time.
    Would I be sad, as a tenant, if landlords en masse decided to sell up?

    Hardly - I'd be over the moon. Lots more property back in the market for families to buy, rather than rent.

    Remember there are those that will never be in a position to buy and their voice is just as important to the question of "what tenants want". Perhaps more important as they will be tenants in the long term rather than those justing holding out for the right house purchase.
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  • LydiaJ
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    I'd like to make it so that if a rented property changes hands for any reason whatsoever, including repossession, then the new owner has to honour whatever tenancy agreement is already in place.

    Also, I'd like to change the rules about giving notice when I want to leave. I'm happy to give a month's notice, but I don't want it to have to be a rental period starting on the "correct" day of the month. I'd like to be able to choose any day of the month, and pay rent for a partial month at the end if necessary.
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  • carolt
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    silvercar wrote: »
    Most landlords were once tenants; some are tenants and landlords at the same time.

    Yes - but the very fact that they are now landlords means that their interests are now often opposed to those of tenants. It needn't be the case - a good landlord by definition is one who treats his customers well and with respect and so they are happy to pay for the service; a win-win situation. I've had a landlord like that.

    Sadly I've had 4 since who most definitely didn't fit into that mould.


    Remember there are those that will never be in a position to buy and their voice is just as important to the question of "what tenants want". Perhaps more important as they will be tenants in the long term rather than those justing holding out for the right house purchase.

    I totally disagree - there is no such thing as 'people who buy' and 'people who rent'. Most people who rent plan to buy at some time. The few who will never buy are taken care of through social housing, not through the private rented sector.

    Do you know anyone who rents privately who claims that this is what they plan to do for the rest of their life?

    I don't - I've certainly never met anyone who did. Why would anyone want that level of insecurity and cost for life? If you genuinely couldn't afford anything, such that homelessness was the only alternative, the state would provide; you'd have to be mad to pay private rents if you were that poor.

    I don't comment on threads called 'what do landlords think about X?' - can't you all just give it a break?
  • olly300
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    carolt wrote: »
    Originally Posted by silvercar viewpost.gif
    Most landlords were once tenants; some are tenants and landlords at the same time.

    Yes - but the very fact that they are now landlords means that their interests are now often opposed to those of tenants. It needn't be the case - a good landlord by definition is one who treats his customers well and with respect and so they are happy to pay for the service; a win-win situation. I've had a landlord like that.

    Sadly I've had 4 since who most definitely didn't fit into that mould.


    That's bad luck partially due to the proliferation of BTL mortgages.
    carolt wrote: »
    Remember there are those that will never be in a position to buy and their voice is just as important to the question of "what tenants want". Perhaps more important as they will be tenants in the long term rather than those justing holding out for the right house purchase.

    I totally disagree - there is no such thing as 'people who buy' and 'people who rent'. Most people who rent plan to buy at some time. The few who will never buy are taken care of through social housing, not through the private rented sector.

    Do you know anyone who rents privately who claims that this is what they plan to do for the rest of their life?uo

    I don't - I've certainly never met anyone who did. Why would anyone want that level of insecurity and cost for life? If you genuinely couldn't afford anything, such that homelessness was the only alternative, the state would provide; you'd have to be mad to pay private rents if you were that poor.
    Well you don't know a wide circle of people.

    I've met and known people who have rented in the private sector the whole of their lives.The last people where a couple who were my neighbours.

    Granted lots of them started renting before 1997 so are protected under old tenancy laws which means it's virtually impossible legally for the landlord to evict them.

    This was one of the reasons tenants where given less rights in private rentals as landlords couldn't evict tenants, get repairs done without lots of hassle or raise rents.

    carolt wrote: »
    I don't comment on threads called 'what do landlords think about X?' - can't you all just give it a break?
    You seem to comment on all renting threads.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
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