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Free bus travel for the over 60s in England

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  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    harryhound wrote: »
    Youth hostel pass anybody?

    for people not traveling alone a hotel or b & b might work out cheaper and better value for money.
  • System
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    The East Midlands Regional Assembly, whoever they are, sent me a Main Bus & Rail Links between Towns & Cities map yesterday, and at first site, gave me a fright. But, it look to be an invaluable item. It covers from Leeds to MK and Stoke 0n Trent to Boston. If you feel this might be useful, google for info.
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  • Can you add something to the effect that Wales and Scotland have their own free bus pass rather than just say that the English one can't be used in Wales and Scotland?

    Thanks Edinburghlass, it is done!
  • crossleydd42
    crossleydd42 Posts: 1,065 Forumite
    bryanb wrote: »
    But can you travel back?

    If you buy a return in the first place - Yes.
    "Some say the cup is half empty, while others say it is half full. However, this is skirting around the issue. The real problem is that the cup is too big."
  • crossleydd42
    crossleydd42 Posts: 1,065 Forumite
    dzug wrote: »
    Well, to put a contrary view, why should some local councils not be allowed to provide extra benefits for their local residents if those residents are willing (by re-electing them) to pay the extra council tax to do so? Isn't that 'justice' as well? Why does everything HAVE to be the same everywhere?

    The system has little to do with local residents as far as funding is concerned, which is now dome from central govenrnment funds.
    "Some say the cup is half empty, while others say it is half full. However, this is skirting around the issue. The real problem is that the cup is too big."
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    The system has little to do with local residents as far as funding is concerned, which is now dome from central government funds.

    .........by a complicated system that even most local government accounts staff do not understand.
    I just have the feeling that the southern shire counties are subsidising the northern urban population?!?

    And then there is the "Midlothian" issue.
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    Basildon (Essex) to Brighton is an interesting trip but the cash saving value is only 14 - 15 quid.:

    09:00 left home.
    09:10 caught bus 10 ( a 5 would do) Thurrock, my council, allows use from 09:00
    09:49 Lakeside (6 minutes wait plus 5 minutes delay by next bus running late = 11)
    10:00 bus X80
    10:16
    Bluewater (-1 36 +10 = 45 transfer) Driver put his foot down over bridge!
    11:01
    Bus 703 Bluewater is busy. it has information and loos in its bus station
    12:00
    Maidstone West Stn - Rocky hill (+15 23 -15 ? = 23 transfer)
    12:23 Bus 7 Should be bus 6 but call of nature & no Loo = bush in field !
    13:28
    Tunbridge Wells Meadow Road shopping centre(17 minute transfer).
    13:45 Bus 29 There is a loo in the shopping centre entrance RHS of Fenwick.
    15:28 Brighton North of Pier.

    An alternative at Bluewater would be bus 308 to Sevenoaks then 402 to T.W.

    The buses south of the Thames were all double deckers (and I got the front seat upstairs;)) The Kent ones were operated by Arriva, old diesels, probably banned from London on emission grounds BUT the seat over the driver has lots of leg room!). The Brighton one was a modern bus.

    Good views over rolling Kentish countryside and orchards.
    Interesting old towns - the bus can take roads banned to through traffic.
  • harryhound
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    From 1st April it cannot be used "on a bus where at least 50% of the seats could be booked in advance"
    So that is National Express etc off the hook.

    It seems a a bit of muddled announcement but bus passes can be withdrawn from:
    tourist and sightseeing buses and rail replacement services.

    So expect South Coast local authorities, or for that matter local authorities anywhere in the country to put "the sightseeing service of xxxxxxxx" on the sides of their buses.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7969839.stm
  • donnajunkie
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    so it seems that any bus that has any destination en route that could be remotely considered a tourist destination can refuse the pass. i hope it doesnt affect me when i go to the lakes this year.
  • LesD
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    harryhound wrote: »
    From 1st April it cannot be used "on a bus where at least 50% of the seats could be booked in advance"
    So that is National Express etc off the hook.

    It seems a a bit of muddled announcement but bus passes can be withdrawn from:
    tourist and sightseeing buses and rail replacement services.

    So expect South Coast local authorities, or for that matter local authorities anywhere in the country to put "the sightseeing service of xxxxxxxx" on the sides of their buses.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7969839.stm

    Aye 'up Harry....the 'government spokesperson' said....."Following a full public consultation, these changes will clarify which types of service are outside of the spirit of the national concession, reducing potential for any confusion over whether a service is eligible - e.g. tourist and sightseeing buses and rail replacement services".

    Clear as mud!
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