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Electrical Work Quote

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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    What's the extractor fan you've quoted for the en-suite.
    I need one, and the best I've got is £80 for a selv, for a class 1 area?
  • mikey72 wrote: »
    What's the extractor fan you've quoted for the en-suite.
    I need one, and the best I've got is £80 for a selv, for a class 1 area?

    I prefer inline fans that are away from the ceiling and reach of persons. The noise is then away in the loft. It still needs to be acessible for maintenance purposes.
    baldly going on...
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    I need a ceiling mount, like for like, no loft space.
  • My question was a simple one that how do you price for items when you do not know what make model type etc they are ? You presume to know what my profession is…. I have over 25 years experience in the electrical field (fully qualified and time served apprentice) on the tools and as an QS and the last 5 years as an inspector for the ECA I have come across many poorly fitted and dangerous installation wear so called electricians have not used correct items as they do not check items for compatibility for items that are already installed....

    With regard the Proteus consumer unit if this is down to bad manufacture or poor installation then there is recourse through the appropriate channels but my professional experience would be another so called electrician that does not know how to calculate loads etc or install items in accordance with manufactures instructions a good workman does not blame his tools :)
  • Just to add the Niceic Eca and other organisation would always recommend that you get at least three written quotes before accepting (a verbal quote would be nearly impossible to substantiate) Discuss the quotation with each contractor; the
    lowest price may not necessarily be the best. Don’t forget to ask if there is a charge for the quotation, and discuss payment terms such as the deposit
    and/or stage payments before work begins. Agree a timescale of the installation with a
    definite start and finish date. Don’t be afraid to ask questions – no reputable electrician will have a problem with that always beware some firms say one thing but there quotes are different



    would you trust a firm that adds this to your quote
    The standard hourly rate is chargeable at £75.00 per hour- before discount.
    This is not the rate applied to the invoice that you pay. A discount will be applied of at least 50% on the labour rate (more discount will be applied to pensioners). This is due to a few non-paying / late paying customers.http://www.ourproperty.co.uk/directory/64661.html
    andrew-b wrote: »
    As regards the proteus consumer unit..i'm not an electrician
    no your not that says it all

    Replacing faulty items is different to replacing items that are missing
    Eca inspectors we try and help the consumer from being put at risk from cowboy so called electricians who are either badly trained, not qualified or competent to do the work for which they have been employed at all
    btw 512.1 .5 covers compatibility the installation need only be made safe to meet regs
  • would you trust a firm that adds this to your quote
    The standard hourly rate is chargeable at £75.00 per hour- before discount.
    This is not the rate applied to the invoice that you pay. A discount will be applied of at least 50% on the labour rate (more discount will be applied to pensioners). This is due to a few non-paying / late paying customers.http://www.ourproperty.co.uk/directory/64661.html

    BT
    Thank you for highlighting a link to my company ad, just for the records here are the full terms and conditions on my own website.
    As things go I have enough work to keep me in business, and usually weed out rogue customers at the quotation stage.
    As most of my customers come from word of mouth I don't have to invoice work. I usually take a card or cash on completion.
    I am unsurprised you seem to feel I don't run my business in the manner you would like me to, but it's your problem - not mine.

    Have you got saddle sores from your high horse yet?

    I don't post links to my web site on here as I go on this forum to help and advise people, but I will put the link to my terms and conditions HERE.

    MODS
    If you wish to remove the link please feel free, as I am not wishing to advertise
    baldly going on...
  • andrew-b wrote: »
    I wondered how long it would take for that insult to come and true to your form indeed it did! I make it clear i'm not an electrician so that anyone i help here knows that my word shouldn't be taken as gospel in electrical matters and that they should seek a professional opinion. I, like others here, try to help people rather than insult them and expect nothing for it except the occassional use of the Thanks button.
    andrew-b wrote: »

    So tell me, other than insulting those trying to help the original poster how have your contributions to this thread helped the original poster in any way whatsoever? Seems to me you have some sort of grudge to bear against electricians...perhaps because you couldn't make a go of it as an electrician yourself? I'm sure you won't feel you need to explain yourself to me...just as i don't feel i need to explain to you what my knowledge of electrics is or of any qualifications i might have in this field. All i've ever seen you do on this forum is try to stop electricians offer their free and impartial advice on here (none of which ever puts peoples safety at risk) . If you have a problem with electricians offering free advice here then i suggest you take it up with the administrators of this forum rather than taking it out on honest competent electricians..

    Thanks for linking to Baldelectrician's company details though..this merely confirms what i already suspected ...that he is an honest electrician trying to earn an honest wage whilst not being taken for a ride by rogue customers! Nice one ..mind you don't fall off that horse now on your way out!

    I trust Baldelectrician, you won't let these "so-called" inspectors stop you from giving impartial helpful advice to the MSE family that does go appreciated - as does the useful advice here from all tradesmen!

    Andy

    I have no problem with electricians at all either on here on in life
    My question was an enquiry as to how they come up with a price for materials without knowing what they are, and the even gave the reg that’s states it needs to be taken into account and if you do not do so you would be putting a person or livestock at risk ?… and an observation of a quote £35 per hour but on the web site says £70 - 80 with a discount ???? especially if you could not see on what exactly constitutes a late payment an hour a week for example stating on completion you could be out at work the firm finishes at 2 o clock you at 4 you may have to pay a late payment this could lead to vunarable people being exploted, my point is taking a verbal quotes the poster could find added extras that may or may not be told to them with the verbal quote most organisations would always recommend that someone gets three written quotes and all the terms and conditions prior to giving anyone a start date for works or feel pressure in anyway to give the first person that quotes the work as often they are in need of the electrical works to be done quickly and may feel that if they do not say yes they may have to wait weeks to get the works done….

    I am still also the M D of an electrical company and whilst the majority of are work is industrial we still do work from single sockets to office block and understand the disruption not having power in you building can cause

    I merely stated what you have said ….You state that you don’t feel the need to explain what your qualifications are but you did state what you are not that’s an electrician it is my profession I believe customers should be wary of companies that charge higher premiums if they only get a verbal quote before booking works and start dates as many of these companies will take a non refunable deposit there and then
  • BT

    In Scotland verbal contracts are legally binding, but we do have a decent courts system up here (no gazzumping). If a trader were to act in a dodgy manner it would be thrown out- a contract is only enforcable if it is fair.

    I will now explain things in more simple terms purely for bt's benefit
    1. I put all things in writing before a customer hands over a deposit
    2. The start date is written down, along with an estimated timescale.
    3. The prices are stated clearly along with any discounts (if applicable)
    4. The client and myself both sign a copy and keep one each
    5. All works on the sheet are included, if it is not on the sheet it's an extra. This makes all very clear- socket locations are noted but changing a location of an item prior to work comencing is not chargable.
    This is to stop me wasting my life writing up quotes for people who want things for insurance companies and have no intention of using my servicies.
    I make a point of putting all in writing when a date and time are booked, a deposit secures a place in my diary. If no deposit is given the slot is still open to any customer that gives a deposit.
    I am still also the M D of an electrical company
    A little bitter with it. Have you made a lot of mistakes?

    As I said earlier I do not have to justify the way I run my company to you, but I have answered your unwarranted concerns for the benefit of the forum readership. I have decided to refrain from replying to your inane rambligs in future and suggest you pick on another victim, as I will not become yours.

    Why are you posting at 3.34 am if you are doing a days work? This lack of sleep appears to be clouding your sense of reason.
    baldly going on...
  • BT

    In Scotland verbal contracts are legally binding, but we do have a decent courts system up here (no gazzumping). If a trader were to act in a dodgy manner it would be thrown out- a contract is only enforcable if it is fair.

    I will now explain things in more simple terms purely for bt's benefit
    1. I put all things in writing before a customer hands over a deposit
    2. The start date is written down, along with an estimated timescale.
    3. The prices are stated clearly along with any discounts (if applicable)
    4. The client and myself both sign a copy and keep one each
    5. All works on the sheet are included, if it is not on the sheet it's an extra. This makes all very clear- socket locations are noted but changing a location of an item prior to work comencing is not chargable.
    This is to stop me wasting my life writing up quotes for people who want things for insurance companies and have no intention of using my servicies.
    I make a point of putting all in writing when a date and time are booked, a deposit secures a place in my diary. If no deposit is given the slot is still open to any customer that gives a deposit.


    A little bitter with it. Have you made a lot of mistakes?

    As I said earlier I do not have to justify the way I run my company to you, but I have answered your unwarranted concerns for the benefit of the forum readership. I have decided to refrain from replying to your inane rambligs in future and suggest you pick on another victim, as I will not become yours.

    Why are you posting at 3.34 am if you are doing a days work? This lack of sleep appears to be clouding your sense of reason.
    The time of posting bears no relevance on the validality of the question asked but just to let you know the commercial side of our works normally entails working at night, no never made a mistake or had to close a company down my question which you never answered or the fact that your own web site does not state what constitutes a late payment are not of importance mealy the fact that you seem to feel the need to justify your charge for labour is of no importance to me Im just advising that people get at least three written quotes
  • sparky883
    sparky883 Posts: 309 Forumite
    The reason (correct me if i am wrong) that "baldy electrical" have so many terms and small print is because he has a merchant to accept card payments and therefore this infomation needs to be on all websites.
    OH THE JOYS OF BEING SELF-EMPLOYED!! Can Travel,Will Work For Free!
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