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  • coljacks
    coljacks Posts: 81 Forumite
    My DD was 2 weeks old when she went onto Farleys second milk- against midwifes advise. At 9 weeks she was having 9 oz every hour and thowing it back up. Took her to she the nurse who advised she was hungry but her small stomach could not cope with the amount of milk she wanted so at 9 weeks and 5 days she went onto solids. My health visitor was livid and I was told she would be over weight and I was doing her more bad than good. However she is now 5 and tall and slim, she has had no serious health problems- touch wood.

    DS1 was 16 weeks and had major problems, he would only eat fruit and refused savoury food, health visitor told me to force feed i.e. when he was crying because he didn't want it to shove the food in.- I didn't bother following the advise of someone who had no experience of young children and did it my own way and succeeded.

    DS2 was about 30 weeks and again was an eay one.

    None of my children are fussy eaters, in fact DS2's favourite food is sprouts!! IMO I have had 3 health visitors and only 1 had children, mothers learn through experience not text books so you know when your child is ready.
  • well, blimey what a great response! thanks everyone for you answers and advice. even on my 4th baby i am still grateful for advice. to be honest he is my hardest baby, which certainly is hard work with 3 others aged 2, 4 and 7. my others where so easy sleeping right through from 3 wks. i was always told if you carry happy your baby will be happy and this has been very true for me. as durng this pregnancy i was told i had 1 in 44 chances ofbaby having downs, i felt i was treated poorly by my hospital and mucked about with my appointments whch was very destressing, i had to travel twice to another hospital which each trip took about 5 hrs, then once given the all clear with that there was big baby issues and so many scans, after all that cody was born 6,11 not the 9+ i was told. he is really healthly looking , but very needy,has a 7 oz bottle every 3 to 4 hrs which would be more often if had his choice, even through the night. i think i will try him soon as i dont really want to give him any bigger bottles yet or more often as he`s sick. with my others i was recommended starting solids earlier rather than the hungry baby milk as this makes them constipated , i always make my own food but give baby rice first. he is a big baby and dont think he will wait til 6mths. x
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  • coljacks
    coljacks Posts: 81 Forumite
    I had been told by my midwife that second milk can make babies constipated. With DD I never had a problem changing her over. DS2 however was constipated from week1 on first milk, the midwife questioned how I was making his bottles incase I was doing it wrong- not likely as DD was 3, DS1 was 2. I told her on her last visit I was putting him on second milk, she disagreed but I did it and within the day he was pooing without having to feed him prune juice.

    This is just my experience and other people will have there own opinions, but you could start off by giving a ready made carton at bedtime to ensure a full belly over night. If baby does get a little constipated cooled boiled water normally works. Or else diluted prune juice- not a cheap option, £3.00 a bottle and it only lasts 3 days and no one else in our house would drink it!! Trust me to have a fussy baby.- Oh and he was the most well behaved until the terrible 2's struck. lol.:rotfl:
  • OrkneyStar
    OrkneyStar Posts: 7,025 Forumite
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    Jo_F wrote: »
    6 weeks with my first one, my mum phoned me one night and I was in tears as there was nothing I could do to stop my daughter crying, mum came over with a box of Farleys Rusks and told me to put a 1/4 of one in her bottle, and it worked, seemed the poor little mite was still hungry, the milk just wasn't filling her up.

    I then started her on baby rice in her bottle, and the Heinz tins of baby food. The health visitor went up the wall and told me that she would have problems, be obese and all that stuff. Hmmm she's 13 years old, dainty and still eats for England.

    With my son it was again about the same time, I breast fed till he was a couple of weeks old, but I got an infection and had to stop, so he went on the bottle and then when it looked like the bottle wasn't enough, he started with the rice in his bottle.

    You have to go with what your baby is telling you, it's not a case of one size fits all.
    Just to say it is a choking hazard to put anything other than liquids into a bottle, fine some rusk or baby rice with lots of milk but NOT in a bottle.
    Use a spoon. If baby is too young to manage supping from a spoon then IMHO they are too young for anything other than milk! Anyone who FF's baby- have you tried hungrier milks ? (FF mummies could clarify whether this can work or not).
    Please don't take offense (I thought it was common knowledge never to put rusks or anything like that in a bottle :o).
    Finally, babes have tiny tummies, so it is to be expected that they feed often and don't always take a lot.
    It can be hard going but it is not for that long!
    good luck OP (and sorry I replied twice but I had to respond to Jo_F's post as I felt it important).
    x
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  • Spendless
    Spendless Posts: 24,652 Forumite
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    Both mine were 4 months, though I found out recently that the guidelines from 4 months to 6 months actually changed when my youngest hadn't reached 4 months, but no-one told me this including my HV who I used to see on a weekly basis cos she ran a 'young babies and mums' group. Neither of mine could abide baby rice (having tried it, I could see their point;) ) and I used banana as a first food.
  • Baybee1984
    Baybee1984 Posts: 572 Forumite
    My DS was about 4 months too..
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  • pukkamum
    pukkamum Posts: 3,944 Forumite
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    My friend sees a dietician for her eldest child as she has cerebal palsy and when she asked her about the new 6 months weaning rule, the dietician told her it was a government response to the obesity problem, the thinking being that the older you wean the child the less likely you are to overfeed!
    I didn't really see how this would work personally.
    They try and tell you it is to decrease the risks of allergys but i, mychildren, my sisters all my friends and no doubt thousends of other babies were weaned at four months and we are all fine!!!!
    My babies were ready at four months so i did it simple as that!!!!
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  • stef240377
    stef240377 Posts: 2,798 Forumite
    Having 3 kids - the youngest now being 11, i too noticed the guidelines have changed reagrding how early to start weaning, this was down to being left my neice for a few hours. She was screaming the house down after her bottle no amount of winding her would stop this. My sister was adamant it was because she had got colic and would readily dose her up with whatever she had obtained on prescription and still failed to settle her. On later baby sitting sessions with her i refused to give her any bottle until she had some baby rice, she were about 10 weeks old, and she loved it and happily enjoyed her bottle afterwards with no screaming, just a well deserved sleep. I told my sister how this had been and she went ballistic accusing me of attempting to make her daughter ill and more likely to become asthmatic etc when older. All this had come from the HV who would read up on info before vistiting and then ram it down my sisters throat, being young and niave my sister soaked it all up with a sponge believing it as gospel and having a very unhappy daughter. She left it until she was exactly 6 months old until changing her onto second stage milk again through her HV advise and a month later she tried her on her first jar of food. This made me livid as there was no natural progression through the foods you give a baby. She is now 13 months old and still on jars of food my sister will not give her anything her HV has advised against and i have never seen such a skinny miserable baby in my life.

    My dd1 (now 13) was 4 weeks prem weighing 3lb 11oz and was on second stage milk by 3 months and not long after baby rice etc - she is 5ft 3 in a ladies size 6/8 clothing and weighs 7.5 stone.

    My ds1 (now12) weighing 6lb was on second stage milk at 6 weeks and was not interested in weaning until after 12 weeks even then not wanting to try foods and is fussy with food now - he is shorter than ds2 and weighs just over 6 stone.

    My ds2 (now 11) weighed 8lb 4oz was on second stage milk at 3 weeks constantly having a 9oz bottle in his mouth as he were always hungry and was 6 weeks old when weaned on HV advise because she said she could tell how he were growing and with his ever hungry apppetite he would never have made any of the clinical guidelined ages - he is now over 5ft tall size 6/7 feet and 10.5 stone and is solidily built.

    Like other mums have said you are with the child 24/7 you become intune with your babies wants and needs, how can a HV and the likes tell you what the child needs after a 5 min consultation. If we believed that weaning a child from too young an age would give them this, that and the other our own parents would not have done it to us. TBH i dont see that many adults who are asthmatic or excema sufferers blaming their parents for their conditions.
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  • Research is always being done, which means guidelines will always change. That doesn't mean that they will always be wrong; it means we know more. Every decision is a more informed decision.

    Current research suggests that you will do your child no harm waiting until six months to wean. The science it is based on states that a child's gut matures - gets ready to start digesting solids - sometime after 17wks. Realistically, you are never going to know quite when this is :) as it's different for every baby but logically, the longer you wait, the more chance of baby being ready. Waiting is not going to hurt your child.

    So what's the risk of going below 17wks? An increased risk of allergy, mainly, along with constipation, digestive discomfort and obesity. The allergy risk is particularly important. Like giving formula, it does not suddenly give a baby an allergy but for babies who are already prone, makes it far more likely. Again, it's all about minimising risk.

    What happens if you have a big baby, or a hungry baby who needs more than milk, then?
    Unless you are going to feed your baby lard, no foodstuff has more calories than milk - so a bigger or hungrier child needs more milk rather than early solids. Sometimes solids will seem to calm the baby and help them to sleep. They work a little like formula in that because they are harder to digest, baby stays 'full' for longer. Baby might really seem to enjoy the solids, but it doesn't mean it's good for them at this age; a little like I'd like to eat donuts all day, but that isn't good for me either :) It may seem ridiculous to have to feed a hungry baby every hour, but a breastfed baby would often be fed every hour (or more!) at this point in life. It's a time of significant growth and it's very normal.

    We were all weaned earlier than 17wks - we're ok though, aren't we? Hmm, not exactly. For every child who is fine, there are children with weight problems, allergies (cow's milk allergy/intolerance is becoming very common), intolerances, digestive discomfort, bad eating habits. Of course, later weaning does not guarantee that your child won't suffer from these things, but it is about minimising that risk. If you've had no problems, it's good to hear - but the plural of anecdote is not evidence.

    Are there any exceptions to the weaning guidelines? Babies with reflux are sometimes weaned early as they find it easier to keep solids down.

    Why don't all the baby food jars say six months? The six month age limit is a guideline rather than a law. Use your common sense and check the labels - many will contain hidden sugars, wheat and milk products.

    Medical opinion differs greatly on weaning, but on the whole, the advice seems to be:

    - Keep an eye out for weaning signs (loss of tongue thrust reflex, sitting up unaided, great deal of interest in food, teeth) from around four months. Look for biological/physical signs such as sitting and the appearance of teeth rather than anecdotal signs like chewing. Babies chew all sorts of things for comfort from a young age, and while they will watch you eat, remember - they watch you do most things!
    - Before six months, stay away from dairy products, meat and gluten (ie give only fruit, veg and baby rice) - foods most likely to cause upset.
    - Don't worry about introducing three meals too soon and don't worry if baby doesn't eat much; food is only a supplement to milk until baby is one year old.

    In case anyone was wondering; I have several friends in the medical profession and we discussed this at length after my daughter was born. It was really interesting to hear several opinions.

    We weaned at 22 weeks.
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  • Jo_F
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    OrkneyStar wrote: »
    :eek: :eek: :eek:
    Just to say it is a choking hazard to put anything other than liquids into a bottle, fine some rusk or baby rice with lots of milk but NOT in a bottle.
    Use a spoon. If baby is too young to manage supping from a spoon then IMHO they are too young for anything other than milk! Anyone who FF's baby- have you tried hungrier milks ? (FF mummies could clarify whether this can work or not).
    Please don't take offense (I thought it was common knowledge never to put rusks or anything like that in a bottle :o).
    Finally, babes have tiny tummies, so it is to be expected that they feed often and don't always take a lot.
    It can be hard going but it is not for that long!
    good luck OP (and sorry I replied twice but I had to respond to Jo_F's post as I felt it important).
    x

    I appreciate what you are saying, but it was exceptionally runny, and there is no way that it could have been served with a spoon, I only added a small amount, and it was the consistancy of the milk anyway. In fact I made it that runny, that it came out of a standard teat quite well.
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