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No Self Assesment Required?

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Could someone help me?
I did not receive a self assesment form this time. I rang local tax office and they said that my tax affairs were simple (that's easy for them to say!!), so I did not need to fill in a form. I have been told by others that this is rubbish and I will be fined if I do not fill one in....has anyone got the definitive answer? Thanks in anticipation
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  • klare_2
    klare_2 Posts: 281 Forumite
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    phone them back and ask them to put it in writing to you! oh and make sure you ask for the name ( first and surname) of the person that you are talking to as well when you phone.
    :EasterBun ...what more do I need to say?!
    its all in the name of medical science.
  • TimC
    TimC Posts: 142 Forumite
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    The Inland Revenue sent letters out, in the middle of last year (I believe) for those whose tax affairs were 'simple', advising that returns would no longer be required.
    If you can access your online account, you should also see it stated on there. I checked mine today and it clearly states Tax Return not sent - and to contact them if I think otherwise.
  • Mumstheword
    Mumstheword Posts: 3,760 Forumite
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    Hi mumstheword, and welcome to the boards.

    I'd ask for clarification in writing, as klare said.

    And just to clarify, myself........I'm not replying to my own thread......mumstheword with alower case 'm' isn't me!! lol

    Mumxx
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  • mumstheword_4
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    Hey Capital M!
    Thanks for your reply
    Amazing coincidence.
    I will ring tax office again and ask for it in writing.
    Have a good day

    Mumsy
  • Lazy_Ike
    Lazy_Ike Posts: 185 Forumite
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    If it is any help, I received a letter last year saying something on similar lines, and no longer needed to send in self assessment return. I 'qualify' for self assessment on the basis I am self employed. When I told them this (which is a matter of record with them) they confirmed I still needed to submit returns. They then sent me a self assessment.
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  • Debt_Free_Chick
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    My partner had the "you have simple tax affairs, no need for self-assessment" letter.

    He then got a simple two-page form to fill in just to declare his bank interest and claim relief for his business mileage. These were the only items that had to go on the old SA form, anyway.

    Much simpler and he had the cheque for last year's refund within two weeks. All very efficient!

    In his case, it looked like HMRC had sent a form that matched his particular circumstances, though it wasn't "personalised" in any way and seemed to be a bog-standard HMRC form.

    How odd that there seems to be such conflicting action by HMRC to this situation!
    Warning ..... I'm a peri-menopausal axe-wielding maniac ;)
  • mumstheword_4
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    Just rang tax office again and they have now confirmed that unless you are sent a form (and of course you trust the postal service!) you do not need to complete a form. They will not confirm this in writing but I am assured the computer records reflect this......so..... Unless circumstances change, for the majority of people who earn under 100k and are not self employed a form does not need to be completed. Maybe there should be a television campaign saying this, rather than the current ones which frighten everyone to bits!.
    Thanks for the messages all, I appreciate it.
  • across
    across Posts: 1,648 Forumite
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    yep my husband had one of the letters a couple of years ago and a cheque back for tax he'd paid from doing tv extra work, we were led to believe we had to declare and pay a certain amount of the earnings then ages after got a letter saying it was uneccessary to have paid tax on the amount i still dont understand why and on another thread a lady is going on about if youre a mystery shopper dont forget to tell the taxman but i dont think theyd be interested in an odd £15 or so would they????? can anyone shed any light on how much you can earn before paying tax etc as i dont have an income at the moment but if i did do anything (an odd thing here and there!)where would i stand! thanks!
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    technically speaking you have to declare all earnings to the tax man, especially if the ,odd £15' is on top of other earnings and could take over your tax free allowance
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • robnye
    robnye Posts: 5,411 Forumite
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    i received a letter last year stating i didnt need to complete a form, but as i make charity donations throughout the year i didnt think this was right.

    before anyone says anything, the charities i give the money too (schools/brownies/guides etc) already claim back basic tax, but as i am a higher tax payer for my sins, i caim the difference.

    anyway last year i thought i would complete an online assessment anyway to check, and i was owed £140, so i filed the claim. dont see why the government should get too much of my money
    smile --- it makes people wonder what you are up to.... ;) :cool:
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