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Old 15-04-2008, 11:10 AM   #1
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Default Have you ever read the Ts & Cs? poll results/discussion

Poll started 15 April 2008:

Have you ever read the Ts and Cs?

Whether it's bank accounts, credit cards or mobile phone contracts, the devil’s in the detail. Yet does anyone actually read it? Which of these is closest to your situation?

Have you ever read the Ts and Cs?

a. Never – don’t understand them - 10% (535 votes)
b. Never – can’t be bothered - 14% (743 votes)
c. Rarely – once or twice in my lifetime - 21% (1156 votes)
d. Occassionally – I try it when its important - 31% (1706 votes)
e. Usually – not for everything, but most things - 17% (935 votes)
f. Always – I would never sign up for anything without a detailed check - 7% (376 votes)

Voting has now ended, but you can still click 'post reply' to discuss below.

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Old 15-04-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
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I have only ever read the T&C's on bookmaker websites when doing my matched betting. It's the most important thing!

But apart from that, never. Have you ever read a licence agreement on software. Some of the clauses are laughable.

You are not allowed to use iTunes to develop nuclear weapons. So no listening to that ZZ Top track when messing with Uranium.



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Old 15-04-2008, 11:41 AM   #3
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Judging by the number of whinging posts constantly on MSE from people who obviously don't then they could have the majority!
Usually just a fleeting read through but not in any great detail. However, if I stuff up then I don't come on here looking for sympathy and the answers I don't want to hear.



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Old 16-04-2008, 5:00 PM   #4
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I do read the T&Cs - which is why I never end up with the cheapest deal (too many get-out clauses) and why I've never joined ebay



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Old 16-04-2008, 7:32 PM   #5
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I make the effort to read the full literature for any accounts I have, so I know what powers I have and what powers the bank has.

Anyone who doesn't read a legal contract before signing it is an idiot - end of.
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Old 16-04-2008, 9:13 PM   #6
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I always read the T&Cs because I want to know what I am signing into exactly



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Old 17-04-2008, 10:02 AM   #7
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What does Ts & Cs stand for?

Texts and Contracts?
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:30 AM   #8
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I try and read and digest the important points for important things such as bank accounts and insurance, but if you read and digested the whole T&Cs for everything, you'd never get anything done - they are so long winded and uninteliigable, and seemingly everything these days has a T&C box to click...
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Old 17-04-2008, 4:36 PM   #9
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What does Ts & Cs stand for?

Texts and Contracts?
Terms and Conditions

I'd never sign a contract without reading it.



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Old 17-04-2008, 9:26 PM   #10
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Always worth a read, you never know what you might find. I was recently given a substantial discount off something I was buying because I was the first person to actually read their (electronic) t&c's since they had merged with another company a few weeks earlier and had adopted the second company's t&c's without realising that parts of them made no sense at all in relation to their own company. The t&c's were immediately withdrawn, and I got a discount. Well worth the fifteen minutes it took me to read them!
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:46 PM   #11
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I am really shocked at the results of this poll. Only 8% always read the T's and C's!!!! How awful. No wonder so many people are ripped off so easily.
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Old 18-04-2008, 2:43 PM   #12
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I use this tool to help me quickly check them, its analyses them, compares against a database and highlights any "Interesting" bits and brings them to your attention. Best of all its free.

http://www.eularesearchcenter.com/
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Old 18-04-2008, 6:19 PM   #13
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There is always a catch of some kind that is why I always read t & c's as 9 times out of 10 there's a wolf in sheeps clothing waiting for a naive lamb to feast on and it's not going to be me!
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Old 18-04-2008, 6:22 PM   #14
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There is always a catch of some kind that is why I always read t & c's as 9 times out of 10 there's a wolf in sheeps clothing waiting for a naive lamb to feast on and it's not going to be me!
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Old 20-04-2008, 10:47 AM   #15
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I always read bank account terms and credit-card terms but I do not read software terms, simply because I don't have the time! For the amount of services people sign up for it's simply too much to read. I am a student, so I have read my student accommodation contract and insurance terms – basically, I always read terms where my money is involved.



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Old 23-04-2008, 7:11 PM   #16
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Default Eula - too long and too boring

Thanks to srvr, having just had to format my computer, I forgot the name of the EULA analyser that I previously relied upon. So no I dont read them, I let this programe pick out any juicy bits.

On the flip side if you REALLY want a service is there any point in reading it, as you have to agree to get the service!
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Old 23-04-2008, 9:24 PM   #17
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Very interesting Result.... 'though hardly surprising.
On-Line T's & C's are usually padded out with such verbiage I rarely get beyond the definitions of terms...
I do things on-line because I'm in a Hurry and want to cut-to-the chase.

I rely on all of You to winkle out the catches and dodgy terms & Highlight them for me on here.

Such is the power of user communities , such as this one...

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Old 24-04-2008, 12:47 PM   #18
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there wasn't an option for "i don't read them because other MSEers have already done it and thoughtfully posted up their opinions and potential pitfalls etc" or "Martin wrote it all in the email so I didn't need to"



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