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I hope this is a worthy scheme but the lack of actual costs or even ballpark quotes for the entire works would set alarm bells off for me!0
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After I received the quote, I wanted extra work to be done.
As the bathroom extension is a cavity wall and the rest of the house will be external wall insulation with a snazzy render, the house would end up two different colours.
The old 'mushroom beige' for the bathroom with little silicone filled holes where they injected the insulation and a pale yellow cream colour for the externally insulated house.
So, two Tuesdays ago (pay day), I rang them up - the girl I first spoke to thought she understood the question and told me she'd get back to me.
She then rang me back and told me that the house would be externally insulated and the bathroom would be cavity filled.
I KNEW THAT! :mad:
So I asked again. Could I have the cavity wall filled bathroom be rendered to match the rest of my house?
She'd get back to me.
This time I received a 'phone call from a 'site manager' who told me that he'd have to come out to measure the bathroom for the quote for the render.
LIKE THE TWO SURVEYORS HAD ALREADY DONE :mad:
Okay. I told him that I'm at work all day, could he come on Saturday - He told me that was no problem.
Friday 29th June, he calls me again. Overtime has been cut and he can't make the Saturday appointment. Could I manage Monday?
Explaining to him that I'm out at work all day and that I can't just take a day off 'just like that', I said that I could make 5pm.
I did. With seconds to spare after leaving at 3:30pm.
He then measures my bathroom extension. Just like the other two surveyors did. And he told me that he'd have to get back to the office to prepare the quote.
And I'm still waiting. :mad:
Today, I receive a 'phone call from another 'site manager'. If I don't agree to the quote and pay up by Friday, then I won't be a part of the scheme.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Cue 'phone call to E.On's 0800 number (which I'm charged for on my mobile) to hear the less than reassuring news that the guy who called me is talking rubbish AND their system hasn't been updated so they still can't send out the revised quote.
It's been the better part of two weeks :mad:
I'm also hamstrung by the fact that as it's a rolling programme across the whole area, I must be ready to take annual leave to suit them - I can't dictate when they work on my house.
In the middle of the Summer.
So in short, all this could be a waste of time. Even if they include me in the works, I may not get the bathroom works I want AND work is going to be a total nightmare if I need to take leave at short notice - it's the middle of the summer FGS.:mad: OOOOOOOOOOOOH! :mad::huh: Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway... :huh:0 -
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Overtime/Saturday - obviously not part of the real world.... in the real world house improvements companies would be happy to come out to your house on Xmas Day just for the ability to secure the signature/sale.
I'm tempted to think it's an overpricing-scam, where companies leap onto grants that might be available and try to sell their overpriced stuff on the back of a letter promising the Earth and name-dropping.0 -
Why do you need to watch them put external render on your home?
I don't need to watch them, but they do need access to the back of my house.
Although there is a communal path which runs behind all the houses, each house has a lockable back gate which must be opened for the workmen.
The whole house is currently covered in a 'decorative' mushroom beige coloured render.
With few exceptions, the whole neighbourhood is the same - it was done as a gigantic job lot neighbourhood improvement scheme some years ago.
The external wall insulation consists of what looks like giant foam sponges bolted onto the outside of the house, skimmed and then rendered with a silicone finish to make the whole structure waterproof.
As the bathroom isn't going to be covered in insulation, it would be nice to cover it in the same silicone render as the house so that it looks the same.
I scoured the internet last night and found the council guy nominally in charge of the works and sent him an email with a link to this thread.
Today, I get two nice emails one from him and one from an E.On minion wanting to know about annual leave arrangements so that they can warn me about the work AND I got a quote.
£425.
Not bad for about £10k's worth of work.
AND I've arranged an overdraft extension on line to pay for it tomorrow.
I bet it won't all be plain sailing though.:huh: Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway... :huh:0 -
I can't help thinking this is some sort of 'tick box' exercise but can't fathom what it would accomplish.
It's a political thing. The energy companies have to meet various targets for promoting energy efficiency. There is a whole number of little schemes and subsidies and quangos and agencies and so on. I am not familiar with this particular one but in my area if you are a homeowner on benefits you can get all sorts of things for free. But it's very scheme dependent and I'm sure some are good and others involve a little profiteering on the side.0 -
The cavity wall fillers showed up yesterday.
I was given an 'afternoon' time of 12pm to 5pm but they showed up at 10:30, telling me that they start at 08:00.
It was lucky I was up and about :eek:
So anyway......
They showed up with a big drill, a bucket half filled with made up mortar and a machine which chopped up bales of recycled bottles (they said glass but it was more the texture of artificial fleece) and then blew it down a pipe and set about my bathroom.
Only to find that the damp issues which have plagued me since buying the house is probably due to the builders shoving their rubbish down into the cavity. :eek:
My house is even shoitier than I first gave it credit for. :eek::mad:
They took about an hour instead of the usual 20 minutes because of the issues with filling the cavity, pressed the mortar into the holes they drilled, swept up and then went on their merry way.
So, my bathroom needs to be torn out, gutted to the external wall and rebuilt.
No pressure then.......:(:huh: Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway... :huh:0 -
Gingernutty wrote: »I don't need to watch them, but they do need access to the back of my house.
Although there is a communal path which runs behind all the houses, each house has a lockable back gate which must be opened for the workmen.
This isn't half the problem I thought it would be.
With all the rain, the wood has swollen and and it's possible to shut the gate and have it stick there. It takes some effort to push or pull it open.Gingernutty wrote: »The external wall insulation consists of what looks like giant foam sponges bolted onto the outside of the house^^^^^^^^^:mad:^^^^^^^^^
This.
This has been the bane of my life thus far.
The E.On workmen have started down my street with scaffolding (forcing us to walk in the road or imitate the pole section of the dog obedience routines) and work started on my house nearly three weeks ago.
That was fun, being woken up, one Saturday, by two workmen standing on scaffolding outside my first floor bedroom, pneumatically drilling the front detail off my house to 'flatten' it in preparation for the foam. :eek:
Aaaaaanyways, I suffer from asthma and, like everybody else, have come down with a pretty nasty cold that's hospitalised a large number of people.
When I called in sick on Thursday 11th - no problem. I was wheezing like a pair of punctured bellows and couldn't do much at all. I finished some Maths homework and watched some stuff online.
Friday 12th - nope. Still had to call in sick. I picked up the 'phone beside my bed to find the line was dead.
My side of the road is a dead zone for mobiles. To make a call, I had to get up, dress warmly, close the front door behind me, cross the road and walk up and down until I had enough bars to make a 'phone call.
Apparently, I sounded dreadful.
Further investigation found that some n u m b n u t s had driven a bolt for the beading through my telegraph wire believing it to be redundant. :mad:
'Coz, all the houses are on Sky or Virgin, innit? :mad:
I texted the E.On Community Liaison Officer, who promised me that if I had to pay for the repairs, they would reimburse me.
Oh, well. That's all right then. :mad:
So now I had to call Talk Talk on an expensive 0845 number to fix my 'phone line.
After going through the automated switchboard, Talk Talk then cut me off and started communicating by text. Telling me there was no need to contact them again as they were running automated tests on my line.
BUT I KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG!! JUST LET ME TALK TO SOMEONE!!!! :mad:
Nope.
By 11:44 on Friday, they had identified an issue with my line.
Two days later on the 14th, an engineer had been despatched to complete the tests.
Later that day, I was invited by text to pick a day for the engineer to call.
I was unable to get the phone to respond (text and calls only), so I had to call them up again, at work the following day, after I had asked for a day off at short notice.
They're in India. Who knew? What could possibly go wrong?
I was given a time slot of 16th October AM. No show. :mad: Not from the scheduled 08:00 - 13:00 time slot or the 13:00 - 18:00 time slot.
And no. All the call centre staff could do was helplessly parrot what was on their screen, with noisy backgrounds and thick accents (did I mention I'm slightly hard of hearing?) and with no hope of them calling BT Opereach. They only have email access.
All this on the pavement opposite my house, with passers-by, scrap vans and cars with loud stereos trolling past me.
I'm still without Internet and 'phone. I have no television anyway which is just as well, as the workmen had buried the satellite cable under the foam blocks at the back of the house. :mad:
After I had specifically asked one of the E.On surveyors who came round for that not to happen.
Now.
After the shockingly bad day I had on Friday 12th, I had an even worse day on Saturday 13th.
I was still rough, wheezing and off work (yep, the one Saturday a month that I work and it was that one).
I had to try and find some internet.
So, I put on some washing, waddled to the library and got 20mins of email access before waddling home again.
To find my kitchen floor was a paddling pool. :mad:
Yup.
The n u m b n u t s that had disconnected my 'phone and internet and buried the satellite cable had also pulled the washing machine outlet loosening the seal causing a leak. :mad:
I mopped the floor, pulled up the lino, pulled out the washing machine (crikey, they're heavy :eek:) and set about fixing the pipe.
There wasn't enough of the connecting pipe left inside the house to get enough purchase to pull it back in, so I opened the kitchen door to go outside.
To find a dead magpie belly up on the kitchen doorstep. :eek:
Onr for sorrow and all that.....
With the scaffolding in the way, there's no way it could just fall out the sky. :huh:
I went to the kitchen cupboard to unravel the last two bin bags on the roll.
One had a great long split up the side, the last had a large collection of holes.
Luckily, I had a roll of rubble sacks. The first one of those I pulled off had no bottom seal, it was just a tube.
The second one was fine.
So with umpteen layers of plastic, I got the magpie safely sealed up in the bags and shoved it in the bin only to have its ultra sharp beak pierce its way through all the layers of plastic and scare the bejings out of me. :eek:
I finished with the pipe. Brought a chair into the kitchen and watched the next washing machine load like a hawk.
I couldn't get the washing machine back into its corner, so now it's half in but at least the pipe is still accessible in case there's a repeat performance when the workmen come around with the render.
I finished the day bawling my eyes out.
I understand that work like this will cause some disruption. I understand it will be dusty, noisy and inconvenient.
However, I'm now starting my second week with no 'phone and no internet.
I hate E.On, I hate BT and I hate Talk Talk who have proved worse than useless at effecting repairs.
And the work still isn't finished........:eek::mad:
PS. I'm allowed to use the internet at my desk after I've finished all the work and signed out.......:huh: Don't know what I'm doing, but doing it anyway... :huh:0 -
Sorry to read it is this bad. :eek: IMO write a letter of complaint to EON urgently and copy to the council, they ought to be resolving these issues whilst they are ongoing. If you leave it until afterwards they won't get resolved. Frankly I'd be asking for someone more senior/ with qualifications and experience to be working on my house from now on. They will of course deny everything that was said verbally and by telephone.
Actually there is probably an EON company representative on MSE .....Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
Gingernutty wrote: »The cavity wall fillers showed up yesterday.
I was given an 'afternoon' time of 12pm to 5pm but they showed up at 10:30, telling me that they start at 08:00.
It was lucky I was up and about :eek:
So anyway......
They showed up with a big drill, a bucket half filled with made up mortar and a machine which chopped up bales of recycled bottles (they said glass but it was more the texture of artificial fleece) and then blew it down a pipe and set about my bathroom.
Only to find that the damp issues which have plagued me since buying the house is probably due to the builders shoving their rubbish down into the cavity. :eek:
My house is even shoitier than I first gave it credit for. :eek::mad:
They took about an hour instead of the usual 20 minutes because of the issues with filling the cavity, pressed the mortar into the holes they drilled, swept up and then went on their merry way.
So, my bathroom needs to be torn out, gutted to the external wall and rebuilt.
No pressure then.......:(
I have the same sort of 1970s (?) bath room extension. The fibre fillers turned up and left complaining the "cotton bud" sized fibre would not flow in correctly.
Then I got a free offer from these people using "diamond bead": nucleated graphite filled polystyrene. As my kitchen & bathroom extension is rendered against penetrating damp anyway, I doubt I will get penetrating or rising damp from my messy cavity. The little misshapen charcoal grey foam beads,the size of "petite pois" (Very small green peas), seemed to slip in ok. [Though I would recommend checking to see if there are any holes to the inside in your walls and if the cavity has been used to route electrical cables. One would mean the cavity under the bath being filled :eek: and the other would mean the PVC going brittle as it does not "like" styrene.:eek:]
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