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San Francisco - advice please
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We loved San Francisco. Went for 5 nights in 2009 as part of our honeymoon. Stayed just off Union St at the Clift hotel. Bit pricey but we booked one night beforehand and the next 4 got the delux suite for $100 per night, Was bigger than a normal UK house !!!
Things to do...
China town, lovely walk thru and thousands of eating places and trinket shops.
Boat trips, under the bridge and around Alcatraz, (do this if you are not going to get to Alcatraz)
Recommend Alcatraz trip, but be careful not to book too late. It is very popular. I would book before you go and there is only one official booking agent.
Google Alcatraz and Angel island combo tour.
Angel island is included in the above tour and it is well worth a visit. Loads of history and lovely views. Free Bus ride around the island.
The Sea Lions that live at pier 39?? are a sight too if you can get past the smell.
The piers are a good day out too and walk along to the fish markets and restraunts along the front.
Drinking can be expensive and smoking is banned in pubs (although there are some designated smoking pubs).
I agree with the prev poster that it does seem to have more than its fair share of homeless, but we never found it intimidating.
Hope you have a good time !! Try and fit as much in as poss.
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Right, I found the books I was looking for...
Walking Tour
Starts and ends in the Union Square area, taking in the highlights of downtown, North Beach (Italian area - shouldn't have called it Little Italy before, I was thinking of San Diego!) and Chinatown. The book reckons on about 2 hours total but you would need to factor in extra time along the way if you want to explore anywhere in more detail (perhaps go up Coit Tower, stop for a coffee at one of the little cafes in North Beach etc). The walk up Filbert Steps to Telegraph Hill is pretty gruelling but worth it - I just about managed about 9 months on from seriously breaking my leg so anyone who's reasonably fit should be fine, especially as it's pretty much all down hill from there!
* Start from Union Square
* On the Stockton Street side of the square look for Maiden Lane, a narrow street with exclusive boutiques and galleries
* On the left is a Frank Lloyd Wright building which was the model for New York's Guggenheim Museum
* Follow Maiden Lane to Kearney Street, turn left, walk to Post Street and turn right
* Walk past Crocker Galleria (a glass domed shopping mall modelled on the Galleria in Milan) to Montgomery Street
* This is the heart of the financial district - walking up Montgomery you will pass the Pacific Coast Stock Exchange, Bank of America World HQ and the Wells Fargo Museum before reaching the Transamerica Pyramid at the corner of Mongomery and Washington
* Continue along Mongomery, which starts to climb as you move out of the financial district and gets increasingly steeper!
* Walk as far as the intersection with Vallejo Street (great views from here of the city and the bay), turn right onto Vallejo and walk down a couple of blocks to Battery Street
* Turn left and walk down Battery to Levi Plaza, home of Levis Strauss
* Cross the plaza to Filbert Street and the famous Filbert Street steps, a steep staircase which winds up Telegraph Hill to Coit Tower, passing some beautifully tended gardens and unusual houses on the way as well as the resident parrots!
* There are great views of the city and the bay just from around the area at the top of Telegraph Hill, or pay a few $ to go up the the top of the tower if you wish
* Continue down Filbert Street to the North Beach district (we took a bus down as my leg was KILLING me at this point, but it's easy enough to walk)
* When you reach the beautiful St Peter & St Paul Church and Washington Square park, turn left onto Stockton Street
* Walk down Stockton, the 'real' Chinatown, full of authentic food shops
* When you reach Washington Street, turn left and walk one block then turn right onto Grant Avenue - this is more the 'tourist' side of Chinatown, with many gift shops and Chinese restaurants
* Continue down Grant, passing the Chinatown Gate, to Sutter Street
* Turn right and walk a couple of blocks up Sutter (v. posh, expensive shops) to Powell Street
* Turn left on Powell and walk the last couple of blocks to end up back at Union Square
If you decide to do the walk, I would recommend printing off a fairly detailed map from Google or wherever and plotting your route before you go - we found it difficult to work out where we were up to at times just following the directions and found it much easier to just count the blocks / cross streets off on a map.0 -
Cable Car Tour
If you do it in full, this is a pretty much circular route which will allow you to see the best of what's along both the Powell/Hyde and Powell Mason lines:
* Start at Hallidie Plaza, at the junction of Powell & Market Streets - you want to get on at the cable car turnaround (kind of fun to watch)...can't miss it, just look for the huge lines of tourists all waiting to ride!
* Catch a Powell/Hyde line car (marked 'Beach & Hyde' on the front) and try to sit - or stand if you're brave enough - by the open air seats on the right hand side of the car for the best views
* Ride all the way to the final stop, then walk down Hyde Street towards the Bay
The Powell/Hyde route will take you north past Union Square, up Nob Hill, down Powell Street (great views north across the bay to Angel Island and east to the Financial District), along Jackson Street and finally along Hyde (distant views of the Presidio to the left, and down Lombard Street to the right) - a fun downhill descent to the bay with views of Alcatraz and the tall ships of Hyde Street Pier.
* Walk through the Fisherman's Wharf area, eventually making your way to Taylor Street - turn left here and walk 3 blocks south to the Powell/Mason cable car terminus at the junction with Bay Street
* Catch a Powell/Mason line car and try to sit or stand on the left
* Ride all the way back to Hallidie Plaza
The Powell/Mason route travels down Columbus Avenue with views of Washington Square, Coit Tower and the Transamerica Pyramid, onto Mason Street and up Russian Hill, down Powell Street along the west side of Chinatown, then back towards Market Street with great views across the south of the city centre.
Depending on where you're staying and what exactly you want to see, you can play around with this circular route to suit. For example, we were staying near Fisherman's Wharf so started with the Powell/Mason leg, travelled to Hallidie Plaza and caught a Powell/Hyde car back, but instead of staying on all the way to the end we got off on Hyde Street, walked down Lombard Street and then made our way on foot back to Fisherman's Wharf from there.
FYI, there is also a third cable car route, the California Line, which just travels up and down California Street. You can catch this at the very end of Market Street, near the ferry building, and just ride end to end if you want - I wouldn't bother if you're paying $5 per journey, but as we had unlimited 'muni' passes it didn't cost us anything and was a fun way to see another bit of the city.
Anyway, I hope at least some of this info will prove useful for your trip. The great thing about San Francisco, and part of the reason why I think I love it, is that much of what you want to see as a tourist is just the city itself - the views, the hills, the bridges - so aside from the cost of hotels (which can be pricey) it's easy to see a lot and enjoy the place without spending a ton of money. Just get out, walk around, take a cable car ride, maybe a trip on the bay &/or to Alcatraz, eat some great food and I'm sure you'll have a fantastic time!
P.S. Yes there are homeless people, as there are in any major city both here and the US. I never felt they bothered us much, if at all, so please don't let it put you off enjoying a fabulous trip!0 -
Thanks for this - we are going to California in July/August and touring around and staying in SF for a few days, so I will make notes from this thread as well!0
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blueoctober_uk wrote: »The Sea Lions that live at pier 39?? are a sight too if you can get past the smell.
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They had mostly left at one point - nobody seems to know why - but were back (as smelly and noisy as ever
) when we were there in September 2010. I was so pleased! I remembered seeing the sealions when I visited with my parents as a teenager and was quite disappointed when I first heard they had moved away
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Just want to say thank you to all the posters in this thread, I'll be in SF in early July so all this information is so useful! Particularly booking early for Alcatraz as this is something I really want to do and I had no idea it filled up so fast!
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I'm another to say Alcatraz. It's easy to think of it as a bit touristy but it is a very eerie and atmospheric place. The added bonus is that you get a boat trip across the bay.0
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I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned but there is a volunteer run walking tours by http://www.sfcityguides.org/. A friend of mine used them and said their guide was really friendly and knowledgable!
We had 3 full days there last year - I loved it! I liked that it doesn't feel as hectic as NYC.
Definately do Alcatraz if it's your sort of thing - we really enjoyed the audiotour - definately one of the best audiotour I've ever used. It was like listening to a full cast BBC radio play at times! Definately worth it.
I found fishermans warf a bit tacky - reminded me of skeg a little!!
We also used the hop on hop off buses to get around, we did use the tram once but the queues for them were long so we didn't bother again - it was a really fun ride back to the hotel (we also stayed at the Kimpton hotel mentioned above) so definately do that at least once!!
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jackieblack wrote: »I think most of them left at the start of last year.
I was there in march, and they are back but there don't seem to be as many as there used to be.
Some good tips about the cable car routes but may be worth remembering that the California line is closed until later in the year for refurbishment. Once that line is finished they will close the other lines one by one to do them as well. It could take up to 12 months for each line.
I also would recommend Alcatraz, especially the evening tours. There are less people on the island and they open areas of the prison that are not usually open during the day.0
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