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House Prices Up 4.9% in last 3 months alone....

According to Nationwides non seasonally adjusted (ie, the real price people actually pay instead of the adjusted index values) numbers for May, prices are up 4.9% since Feb.

Which is an annualised rate of around 20%......;)

Spring bounce is surprisingly bouncy given all the election and budget drama...
:beer:
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  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    According to Nationwides non seasonally adjusted (ie, the real price people actually pay instead of the adjusted index values) numbers for May, prices are up 4.9% since Feb.

    Which is an annualised rate of around 20%......;)

    Spring bounce is surprisingly bouncy given all the election and budget drama...
    :beer:


    Now now, Hamish. It's seasonally adjusted for a reason.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    DaddyBear wrote: »
    Now now, Hamish. It's seasonally adjusted for a reason.

    True, but I'm pre-empting all the "0.5%, not much of a spring bounce" comments that are appearing elsewhere.;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Dirk_Rambo
    Dirk_Rambo Posts: 387 Forumite
    hamish, is this yet another of your cheap pointscoring /no debate welcomed threads? couldn't you find something more constructive to do like boiling your head
  • FATBALLZ
    FATBALLZ Posts: 5,146 Forumite
    Somebody should really create a template post for this forum where you fill in the blanks to save people's fingers typing slightly different things each time a new figure comes out from some statistic collecting body.

    House prices gone (up/down) by ____ according to ____

    This is the start of a long term (boom/crash).

    (beer smiley/sad smiley)
  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    True, but I'm pre-empting all the "0.5%, not much of a spring bounce" comments that are appearing elsewhere.;)

    Good point. Thay seem to have missed the fact that a 0.5% rise means 0.5% better than the average May.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    DaddyBear wrote: »
    Good point. Thay seem to have missed the fact that a 0.5% rise means 0.5% better than the average May.

    Indeed.

    In reality, prices are up by around £8000 in just 3 months.

    Which isn't nearly as mild as the "it's only 0.5%" crowd seem to think.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Turnbull2000
    Turnbull2000 Posts: 1,807 Forumite
    I suggested a new boom last spring. Looks like I was right.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    I suggested a new boom last spring. Looks like I was right.

    I don't think it's a new boom.

    I wrote extensively last year that the crash is being time-compressed, the fundamentals are so very different to last time that it is clear the 90's scenario is a non starter this time around.

    But I do expect things to start to level off now and through 2011.

    2012 may get a bit "boomier" though.....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    The "spring bounce" was a term traditionally used to describe an increase in activity.

    Not an increase in prices.


    It has only recently been hijacked by HPI cheerleaders to mean a rise in prices.
    "The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
    Albert Einstein
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    nearlynew wrote: »
    The "spring bounce" was a term traditionally used to describe an increase in activity.

    Not an increase in prices.


    It has only recently been hijacked by HPI cheerleaders to mean a rise in prices.


    It's not a hijacking, there is a correlation of sorts.

    With an increase in activity, it means there is an increase in demand.
    The increase in demand results in a traditional increase in the rate of prices rises in the springtime.
    Conversly, in the wintertime, activity levels lower, competition lessens and the rate of price rises lowers.

    Hence the utilisation of seasonally adjusted indexes
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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