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WARNING - internet passwords

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  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
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    I use

    one password for forums
    two passwords for various email accounts
    one password for banking
    one password for shopping.

    All different.

    Having too many (obscure) passwords to remember can in itself be a security risk as the temptation is to write them down or save them in clear text somewhere so that you don't forget them.

    This website will generate secure random passwords for you.
    My password is:
    Z'Ta8:fkw$}n&D!"$:a?$B1Q>ri;!.NphxJhE'G..ON:@^jfeYN,-lOk"[-#O'a

    You wouldn't have been able to guess that :T
    poppy10
  • Stompa
    Stompa Posts: 8,383 Forumite
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    Not confident at all - which is why you would change them all !!
    If you lost your house keys (or had them stolen), you'd change the door locks - its just the same deal

    Of course you'd change them all, but you'd be vulnerable for a while before doing so.

    If somebody managed to grab a copy of your file without your knowledge, and it was not sufficiently secure, they could break into it at their leisure.

    It's madness not to use the most secure protection you can find. It's not very hard to do, and password managers are designed for just that purpose so are very simple to use.
    Stompa
  • Ximian
    Ximian Posts: 711 Forumite
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    poppy10 wrote: »
    I use

    one password for forums
    two passwords for various email accounts
    one password for banking
    one password for shopping.

    All different.

    Having too many (obscure) passwords to remember can in itself be a security risk as the temptation is to write them down or save them in clear text somewhere so that you don't forget them.

    This website will generate secure random passwords for you.
    My password is:


    You wouldn't have been able to guess that :T

    That's a bit hard to guess, BUT can you remember that? (if you don;t have it saved, say you're on vacation) :)
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    meester wrote: »
    not good enough.....

    I've used the same couple of passwords since 2000.

    My ebay account was hacked yesterday. I have definitely not clicked on any dodgy emails, the only thing I can think of is that a site/forum that I have registered on has run through the usernames and passwords of people and is using them to hack accounts.I'm pretty sure my use of the same password on multiple sites is what got me compromised, so I'm being more careful now and have taken the step of changing all my passwords on important sites.

    I think that is what probably happened to me too. What freaked me out though was that even after I changed to a totally random password, they hacked in again the very next day. Somehow they had managed to divert ebay messages from my hotmail account, although all other messages to the hotmail account got through okay.

    I ended up changing my authorised e-mail address on ebay to a different e-add, changing all my passwords on my hotmail accounts (they were all the same, so just changing the e-add wouldn't have helped) and just to be extra safe, I also changed my user name, so they can't find me again!

    One thing I did wonder - I didn't always actively sign out of my e-bay account (there is a 'keep me signed in for a day tick box) and I wonder if that might have given them an 'in'. I sign out every time now (I keep going back just to see if it is still okay!)

    As I say, it wasn't so much the ebay account as the fact that it could have been a financial account - after all 'secret questions' such as your date of birth and mother's maiden name are not very secure!
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • Meltdown_2
    Meltdown_2 Posts: 471 Forumite
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    m_c_s wrote: »
    As a minimum everyone should have a portable DNA analyser and as a second line of defence a retina scanner. These certainly stop the wife accessing my details :p

    Ha, that's what you think.
    With a hair plucked from your head, and a video of your eye (held open while you sleep) on to her mobile camera, she's away to access your accounts ... :D
    Imprudent granting of credit is bound to prove just as ruinous to a bank as to any other merchant.
    (Ludwig von Mises)

  • planemad
    planemad Posts: 569 Forumite
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    When using online banking I always use the on screen keyboard.
    I'm quite secure with double firewall and daily scans of Spybot but just in case a key logger did get in they could still not log my password information.

    There are also digits in the character map that can be used in passwords that scanning software will not even check for.
  • Dopple
    Dopple Posts: 373 Forumite
    I use Roboform. It's the best software (and maybe only!) that I've ever paid money for.
  • hi all,
    i must say that i have been hyjacked twice on my email and ebay accounts.
    and once had two amounts taken from my paypal account? (they advertise as military grade security!!).
    it is very frightening indeed.
    i agree that useing more than 2 or 3 passwords is almost impossible to remember which one is which, but what is the alternative - write them down!!!??? A BIG NO_NO.
    my friends have also had a few problems.
    if the internet in all its forms (banking, ebay, info,etc,etc) was not so bloody convienient - i would cancel the lot and go back to my previous life - telly,pub,smoking,etc, etc - am i normal or not???
  • planemad
    planemad Posts: 569 Forumite
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    I think that websites also need to get more secure by only letting 3 attempts of a incorrect password input before blocking any further attempts for 1hr.
    Or verification via a SMS sent to the users mobile phone with a reactivation code.
  • TomJ
    TomJ Posts: 237 Forumite
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    But how will you remember all that random password info???

    By making it pseudo-random. Take:

    IiaaM,&hs1/3.

    Looks pretty random, doesn't it? However, it was generated by taking the first 2 lines of The Rime of the Ancient Mariner:

    It is an ancient Mariner,
    I_i__a__a_____M_____,
    And he stoppeth one of three.
    &___h__s_______1__/__3___.

    (Underscores used as I believe the forum software collapses whitespace)

    You can pick any phrase that you are sure you will remember and use that to generate a random seeming but memorable password. Totally proof against dictionary attack and, if you use enough symbols and punctuation, pretty bloody secure.

    A&LPDApaw8.5%

    Alliance & Leicester Premier Direct Account pays a whopping 8.5%
    I am not a financial advisor or other expert. All posts are purely my thoughts at the time for discussion, not advice. Bear in mind, even most of this disclaimer is ripped off another forum user. Please check out the facts first before doing anything.
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