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  • cherub1965
    cherub1965 Posts: 8,470 Forumite
    i have done that myself after ringing and speaking to the manager.went to security guard and he just shrugged and said it wasnt his problem and went to customer services and they said they couldnt leave the store to get numbers.waste of time so i just dont shop there now,their loss as i used to spend a fortune there!people nip to the pharmacy or for a paper or lotto and think its ok as they are just going to be a minute.if they had staff go out maybe every hour and check they would make a fortune as there are signs up saying its a £60 fine for parking there.they have a private firm enforcing this but they only come onve or twice a day.if there was more people being fined they would think twice about parking there.
    Shine on you crazy diamond..............
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    No supermarket or their agents can enforce 'fines'
    Fines can only be enforced by councils or the police.

    These 'fines' are really invoices are not worth the paper they are written on anyway and they cannot be enforced. All you have to do
    is completly ignore any paperwork that comes in the post, hold your nerve, ignore every threat that they 'may' take you to court or
    they 'may' do this or that. They wont,
    All this was on watchdog a little while ago. For more information have a look at the pepipoo website, its all there.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • Aputsiaq
    Aputsiaq Posts: 313 Forumite
    harleq1962 wrote: »
    getting the lower rate dosent mean you wont get a blue badge, the council can get in touch with your GP and witht their support a blue badge will be issued, but it does depend on the GP.
    It depends on the council....a GP cannot insist a patient has a Blue Badge.
  • ash4becks
    ash4becks Posts: 589 Forumite
    Aputsiaq wrote: »
    It depends on the council....a GP cannot insist a patient has a Blue Badge.

    yes they can if they see it is benift to who it is to be used for as i have just sorted this out for a good friend of mine and intead to do the same after my medical stuff is confimed
  • Aputsiaq
    Aputsiaq Posts: 313 Forumite
    ash4becks wrote: »
    yes they can if they see it is benift to who it is to be used for as i have just sorted this out for a good friend of mine and intead to do the same after my medical stuff is confimed
    A GP cant overrule what the councils rules are. He is a doctor...not the prime minister.
    He might have helped you out or gone out of his way to write a damn good letter...but he most certainly cannot pick up the phone and demand that his patient gets a badge.
  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    In my town, it is possible to get a blue badge without getting HRM, but anybody who applies and doesn't receive HRM has to have a medical. My mum-in-law is in her seventies and has had problems with walking for over twenty years. She didn't realise that she could apply for DLA and has only applied for AA in the past few years (which she receives at the lower rate). AA does not have a mobility component, but as she has difficulty in walking, I suggested that she applied for a BB. She was sent to a local clinic for a medical and received her BB with no problems at all. I've just suggested to FIL that he should apply for a BB, as he has considerable health problems as well. As he is also in his seventies, he wouldn't get one automatically, but is likely to have to attend a medical.

    Our council also used to give BBs to anybody over the age of eighty, whether they needed one or not. I don't know if this is still the case, but it certainly used to happen about twelve years ago.
  • idvi
    idvi Posts: 276 Forumite
    hi all, i was having a google and found this in an pdf file from the dept of transport website, its from a study in 2007 about the BB

    its long but there is a lot of good stuff in there about wether mentalhealth problems need a BB

    :j
    4.4.1 Travel behaviour and mobility problems
    People with learning disabilities


    Many respondents with learning disabilities stated that their condition
    affected their mobility. Walking difficulties for some meant that walking
    was limited to short distances. Depending on the severity of the
    condition, respondents preferred not to use public transport due to the
    following factors:

    • Fear of safety and personal security;
    • Lack of awareness and understanding amongst the public and
    transport staff of their condition;
    • Difficulties understanding public transport timetables and
    schedules.

    Transport & Travel Research Ltd Page 35 November 2007
    Eligibility for the Blue Badge Scheme


    For many respondents (with severe conditions) journeys by
    public transport were only possible for them when accompanied by their
    carer.

    People with Mental Health Difficulties

    In general, due to the wide range of mental health difficulties, it is difficult
    to place a definite answer as to whether or not there is a direct effect on
    a person’s ability to access and use public transport. Some will
    encounter no problems, whilst others will create serious barriers. The
    research has found that:

    • For people with anxiety disorders including panic attacks, using
    public transport can be problematic and can trigger an attack.
    • For those with severe disorders (e.g. schizophrenia) using public
    transport could trigger extreme forms of mental distress.
    • Unclear, unambiguous signage can cause problems for those with
    conditions such as anxiety disorders and panic attacks.

    For people prone to panic attacks, some may start to associate particular
    places and situations with having a panic attack. In an attempt to avoid
    another attack, one may start to avoid places where attacks have
    previously occurred. In this way, a person may put increasing restrictions
    on their day-to-day activities and develop agoraphobia or social phobia.

    Many respondents with anxiety-disorders and panic attacks noted that
    public transport is difficult for them to use due to feelings of being
    enclosed and vulnerable, which could trigger an attack. Crowded buses
    and trains could also have the same effect. Other problems such as the
    fear of crime and anti-social behaviour on public transport discouraged
    use. Taxis, like buses and trains, also posed the same problems in terms
    of not being in control and feeling of enclosure (over and above the
    expense element).

    4.4.2 Aspirations and perceived benefits in relation to parking
    concessions
    People with learning disabilities


    The parking aspirations identified for people with learning disabilities
    included the concession to park as close as possible to the destination.
    The avoidance of crossing main and busy roads would be highly
    beneficial to many of the respondents with learning disabilities. It was
    Transport & Travel Research Ltd Page 36 November 2007
    Eligibility for the Blue Badge Scheme


    reported by respondents that often they are not able to make
    journeys if it entails crossing a road.

    Respondents indicated that they require longer time limits than those
    currently enforced at many car parks due to the slow pace of many
    people with learning disabilities. For people that could not walk at all, this
    need was greater. For some respondents, the problems encountered,
    particularly with walking and behaviour, were such that the availability of
    parking bays determined the destination trying to be accessed.

    Concession to park on single- or double-yellow lines

    This concession was regarded as beneficial and ‘important’ among most
    respondents with learning difficulties especially for city centre shopping
    trips, making doctor and dental appointments, and for going to the
    cinema and theatre. The average lengths of time in which respondents
    would benefit from the concession to park on single- or double yellow
    lines varied form 2 hours for shopping trips, 30 minutes to 1 hour for
    doctor and dental appointments, and up to 3 hours for leisure and
    recreation purposes.

    Concession to park at a parking meter, or in an on-street pay-and-
    display parking space


    This concession was regarded as ‘important’ and beneficial to
    respondents with learning difficulties especially for shopping and leisure
    trips and for visiting local amenities (post office, shops) and for making
    hospital appointments. Respondents said that they would benefit from a
    parking time of 1 hour for these journey purposes.

    Concession to park in an off-street parking space reserved for disabled
    people


    This concession was also regarded as ‘important’ and beneficial to
    respondents with learning difficulties. Respondents’ aspirations for this
    concession included a parking time of 1-2 hours for making trips to local
    amenities (Post Office, shops), leisure centres, job centre, making
    doctors, dental and hospital appointments.

    People with mental health difficulties

    Whilst driving was described as the only feasible mode of travel for
    people with panic attacks and agoraphobia, the following issues were
    highlighted:

    • Problems finding a parking space caused anxiety and panic. A
    person will abandon a trip altogether due to the inability to find a
    space.
    • Those with more severe agoraphobia will not leave their house due
    to walking distances. Even for those with a less severe condition,
    quality of life would be greatly improved if they could park close to
    their destination (all severity levels would benefit potentially).
    • Problems going shopping. Parking far away from shops caused a
    great deal of stress and often meant that trips were abandoned
    because the anxiety triggered panic attacks.
    • Multi-storey car parks were also difficult for respondents to face
    due to feeling of enclosure, which could lead to a panic attack.
    • Feeling of getting lost if car is parked far away and can't be found
    easily. A Blue Badge would mean that respondents could park next
    to destination which would reduce the anxiety.

    Respondents with OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) encountered a
    lot of problems in reaching their final destinations. The lack of normal
    parking spaces meant that having a badge would mean being able to
    park close to the destination. Problems also exist with objects such as
    barriers, bollards and signs being “dirty” – in addition, parking close to
    visible dirty objects (for example, litter) caused huge problems.

    With Tourette’s Syndrome, repetitive behaviour can hinder the use of
    public and private transport. They might affect a person’s ability to board
    a bus. Obsessive Compulsive Behaviours may also distract a road user
    from the road (for instance, compulsive mirror checking).

    Concession to park on single- or double-yellow lines

    This concession was regarded as beneficial and ‘essential’ among most
    of the respondents with mental health difficulties particularly
    agoraphobics and people with anxiety-related disorders. Respondents
    said they would benefit most from this concession for making shopping
    and social trips in which a 3 hour parking time would be beneficial.

    Transport & Travel Research Ltd Page 38 November 2007
    Eligibility for the Blue Badge Scheme


    Concession to park at a parking meter, or in an on-street pay-
    and-display parking space


    Again, this concession was regarded as ‘essential’ to respondents with
    agoraphobia and anxiety-related disorders. Shopping was the only trip
    nominated for this concession in which respondents said that they would
    benefit from a parking time of up to 3 hours.

    The same aspirations in relation to the concession to park in a reserved
    off-street parking space for disabled people were expressed by
    respondents with mental health difficulties.

    4.4.3 Perceptions of the Blue Badge Scheme and its administration
    People with learning disabilities


    The administration of the system was found to be positive overall. There
    was a feeling that the criteria should be widened to include those with
    walking difficulties associated to any condition, not just learning
    disabilities. This was due to the problems caused by walking difficulties.

    There was a general agreement that people with “hidden” disabilities
    should be included in the eligibility criteria. The reasoning behind this
    was that there were numerous problems facing people with various types
    of hidden disabilities, for whom it was felt would benefit if they were to be
    included. A strong belief was held that people should become newly
    eligible if in receipt of the lower rate of the mobility component of the
    DLA.

    Whilst there was an element of uncertainty over the number of Blue
    Badges in circulation, the research found that more badges would be
    beneficial to those who need them but presently cannot hold one.

    People with mental health difficulties

    The eligibility criteria of the Blue Badge were regarded as not broad
    enough. The research uncovered a feeling that more people should be
    entitled to the Blue Badge. Problems with lack of assertiveness caused
    anxiety sufferers to find it difficult due to low self-esteem. There was a
    general stigma attached to agoraphobia and panic attacks. A major
    perception was that if quality of life was undermined as a result of
    needing and not having a concession, then one should be included.
    2 esa medicals passed successfully (support group - it can be done!!)!! :j
  • Be_Happy
    Be_Happy Posts: 1,392 Forumite
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    I parked at Asda last week. My son, who has a BB, was in the car with me and came into the shop with me. I pointed out to Customer Services that there were half a dozen cars parked in disabled spaces but not displaying BBs. The Customer Services lady apologised and promised to get them moved as soon as possible. She asked one of the trolley men to bring her registrations of offending cars. Within a few minutes, she was reading out (a couple at a time) car registration numbers, asking them to go to Customer Services.

    It's worth asking at your Asda if they will do the same. I wish our local Morrisons would!

    In our local Asda several years ago they usually tannoyed for owners of cars parked wrongly to contact customer service desk. On one occasion no-one came forward, so store manager parked his car across the back of wrongly parked car. Owner soon came to customer service desk to complain!
  • jennie-jack
    jennie-jack Posts: 215 Forumite
    my mum gor her blue badge without DLA, granted she got high rate mobility when she finally did apply but this was after the blue badge people asked why she didnt get dla.
  • Invasion
    Invasion Posts: 586 Forumite
    Aputsiaq wrote: »
    Why would it be good to hear of someone who got a badge for the same reasons?

    Its absolutely crazy what goes on with these things....every man and his dog wants a blue badge because they can park in the middle of town or get free parking in some cases....no thought at all whether they 'really' need it.

    Those badges should be for people who have considerable trouble walking or cannot walk....only!!
    And most councils agree....as most now stipulate that you MUST be in receipt of Higher Mobility DLA to get one.

    Quite right too!

    That's not correct.. If it were then those councils would be acting illegally, if you become disabled over the age of 65 then you are not entitled to DLA.. Yet they must be allowed to make an application and get a blue badge.

    People who are registered blind are also automatically entitled to a blue badge.

    Those in receipt of War Pensioner's Mobility Supplement are also automatically entitled.
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