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FTB i n Manchester - What to offer?

Hello All,

A little bit of help please………

I'm a 25 year old FTB in Manchester who has an agreement in principle for a mortgage of upto £229K. To go with this I have saved up a £20-25K deposit

I've viewed 8 apartments and come across one that I like and that I'm looking at putting an offer in this morning.

The apartment was bought by the current incumbents for £180K last August (as a new build I think) and they have it up for sale for £215K. Hence my main reason for posting is, if anyone has any ideas, what my opening offer should be? I'm thinking of somewhere between £190 and 193K? I do watch Location Location Location and they always mention extra things. As I' ma FTB should I be mentioning when I call with the offer that I'm a FTB with an AIP for a mortgage and can move as quickly as the other part want to move?

Thanks for your help :)
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  • irnbru_2
    irnbru_2 Posts: 1,603 Forumite
    dkps_2000 wrote:
    if anyone has any ideas, what my opening offer should be?

    180K

    Read this post.
  • BobProperty
    BobProperty Posts: 3,245 Forumite
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    irnbru wrote:
    180K

    Read this post.
    "180k" Or less. There was a thread on here a few weeks back about Manchester city centre living. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=232553
    Have a look on Rightmove sold prices to see what the area actually sells at.
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  • Hi I am from Manchester myself and once lived in the old tobacco factory (before family!). From my perspective city centre apartments in Manchester do tend to hold their value, but with an increasing number being built it is only a matter of time before supply outstrips demand. That said, if it is beneficial to your lifestyle and convenient to you I wouldnt say it is bad value for money. How close to the actual city centre is it? Can you link the property for us to have a look at?

    There is a guide to property negotiations for first time buyers which is a sticky at the top of the board, it is authored by AndrewSmith but the actual thread started off by doozergirl. Have a look through that and if you are still not confident ask your mortgage advisor to put the offer in for you

    MM
    I am a Mortgage Adviser

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Oops sorry, I should have mentioned that the property is in Didsbury as opposed to the city centre - thanks for the help so far though! :)

    The flat can be found here

    http://www.homesonview.co.uk/Scripts/ShowProperty.asp?css=&CompanyID=JPABDIDS&AgencyID=JPABDIDS&ID=JDP03662
  • Ah right, well if you are talking about didsbury then you have no worries. didsbury is a well thought of area and is popular with young and old alike due to the proximity to manchester and the local facilities. There are some nice apartments in didsbury I recently mortgaged one for my cousin and her boyfriend. I don't think your apartment will lose value or appeal as there isnt so much building going on in didsbury at the moment, and that type of apartment will appeal to many young professionals of which there are lots in Manchester.

    The apartment itself looks smart and modern, very nice indeed and I see you will have parking as well. If I was offering on that I would put in an initial offer of £206,000 and work upwards if necessary.

    Do you know how long its been on the market and the positon of the sellers
    I am a Mortgage Adviser

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • BobProperty
    BobProperty Posts: 3,245 Forumite
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    That's on the old Withington Hospital site, I think. There has been a fair bit of development on there. Check that you are happy with the distance to the shops on Burton Road as there aren't many others "on the doorstep". Also take into account you are at the Western-most end of Didsbury and that affects values.
    A house isn't a home without a cat.
    Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.
    I have writer's block - I can't begin to tell you about it.
    You told me again you preferred handsome men but for me you would make an exception.
    It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
  • lypsey
    lypsey Posts: 201 Forumite
    Hello DKPS

    I was wondering if you were factoring in a rise of interest rates of between 1 and 2 % . A friend of mine has just bought his house and I was talking to him in general about interest rates . When I tried to explain to him that this sort of a rise would leave him ZERO for other expenses he just looked at me and shrugged his shoulders

    In my humble opinion house prices might drop 40% over the next 4 - 5 years and if I am correct that could lose you 80K. If you can afford not to rush why not wait 6 months and see what happens . I was in negative equity from the age of 19 - 27 and its not nice , it means you can't go up the ladders very easily if your already maxed out on your mortgage . (family on the way etc etc?) Good luck .. sorry to be negative
  • dkps_2000
    dkps_2000 Posts: 13 Forumite
    Mortgage Mamma, thanks for the advice! Your words about the Didsbury market were re-assuring, albeit I was hoping you'd suggest a slightly lower opening gambit ;-)

    Tomorrow morning is when the offer goes in! But then again I've procrastinated on putting it in today!

    When I make the offer do I need to be explaining why I'm offering under the asking price, i.e 2nd bedroom is a little small etc?

    Lypsey I have to be honest and say I haven't factored in interest rates rise, I'm thinking that I'll probably get a 2-3 year Fixed Rate mortgage so that shouldn't be too much of a problem for the first few years. Hopefully by the time fixed rate comes to an end my earnings will have increased too no guarantees I know but some part of it will have to be a risk I imagine!
  • MortgageMamma
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    Hi DKPS

    I've had many a good night out in didsbury fond memories before I had to leave to home turf to live in lancashire. There is a great tapas bar but I cant remember what its called - ever been?

    When you put your offer in, just put it in, the estate agents are likely to try and play games and says there have been other offers to push you upwards. Sometimes there will geniunely have been another offer, sometimes not. Make your second offer final...don't say anything about room sizes etc or you will find yourself waffling, just put the offer in and wait.

    It would be a good idea if your mortgage broker (if you have one) did this for you, most good brokers are happy to take the reins from their clients at this stage and it tends to work for a variety of reasons, although sometimes the EA will like to hear from you also. If they ask for an agreement in principle to be faxed make sure you blank out the max borrowing if its on it or they will use it to push price up.

    Best of luck, I hope you get it
    I am a Mortgage Adviser

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dkps_2000
    dkps_2000 Posts: 13 Forumite
    Thanks again MM - the first offer went in this morning at £195K so we'll have to wait and see, it wasn't laughed out of the building at least! The EA did say 'I'm not sure what they will say until they've had an offer put in front of them' which implies to me that I'm the first person to make an offer on the property as I'm guessing if they had had other offers they'd have known what the owners would have said to a 195K offer

    I took your advice and simply told them what the offer was and what my situation was, i.e no chain, AIP and FTB

    Was the Tapas bar in Didsbury in West or the Village? In the Village there is Casa Tapas and La Tasca. West Didsbury has the best one though - Ramblas, I only discovered it 6 weeks ago and I've already been 4 times!!!
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