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Blanchflower joins 70% club

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    Nice riposte, it made me smile (but not laugh).

    That said, it must be recognised that the 70% club is about perceptions, not numbers. The market correction could be 60% or it could be 80%.
    Only someone with a time machine can predict the turning point in a bear market. David Blanchflower has been granted membership of the 70% club for 'good articulation of Macaques opinions'. He may well have picked up some of these up from reading my posts (I have no problem with that).

    Or it could have been 16% to 22% icon7.gif depending on index.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Or it could have been 16% to 22% icon7.gif depending on index.

    Nah, not really. It is the 70% club not the 20% club.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Why don't we just call it the "I don't have a fricking idea like the rest of you" club?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    edited 9 November 2009 at 2:57PM
    just because Macaque is a closet romantic and believes in 185% house price drops please stop bullying and making fun of him!!

    isn't that what you call it now when bearish/negative posters are clutching at straws?

    he is a very intelligent species!
    below is a pig tailed macaque if anyone is interested:A

    800px-Macaca_nemestrina.jpg
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    You edited your post chucky, but still left all that?

    When can we stop these personal remarks?? Seriously.
  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    What % would it be measured in tea leaves icon7.gif
    231.25 cents per kg of tea in September 2007
    344.77 cents per kg of tea in October 2009

    £ worth $2.0085 at time of NR collapse (September 14 2007) so £1.1513 per kg of tea
    £ worth $1.6445 at end of October 2009 so £2.0965 per kg of tea now

    Av. house price £184,723 in Sept 07, ergo you needed 160,447.32kg of tea to buy the average house (184,723 / 1.1513)
    Av. house price £161,816 in Oct 09, ergo you needed 77183.88kg of tea to buy the average house (161,816 / 2.0965)

    So, UK house prices have collapsed by 51.9% in the currency of tea leaves over the past two years (160,447.32 - 77183.88 = 83263.44 / 160,447.32)

    To drop 70% a house would have to be worth 48,134kg of tea (160,447.32 - 112313.124 (160,447.32 * 0.7))

    :cool:

    data used:
    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=tea&months=60
    http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=GBPUSD
    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/indices-nationwide-national.php
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    Mr_Mumble wrote: »
    231.25 cents per kg of tea in September 2007
    344.77 cents per kg of tea in October 2009

    £ worth $2.0085 at time of NR collapse (September 14 2007) so £1.1513 per kg of tea
    £ worth $1.6445 at end of October 2009 so £2.0965 per kg of tea now

    Av. house price £184,723 in Sept 07, ergo you needed 160,447.32kg of tea to buy the average house (184,723 / 1.1513)
    Av. house price £161,816 in Oct 09, ergo you needed 77183.88kg of tea to buy the average house (161,816 / 2.0965)

    So, UK house prices have collapsed by 51.9% in the currency of tea leaves over the past two years (160,447.32 - 77183.88 = 83263.44 / 160,447.32)

    To drop 70% a house would have to be worth 48,134kg of tea (160,447.32 - 112313.124 (160,447.32 * 0.7))

    :cool:

    data used:
    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=tea&months=60
    http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=GBPUSD
    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/indices-nationwide-national.php

    :T Great post.

    Now all we need is someone to point out such a large demand for tea would affect it's price.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    edited 9 November 2009 at 3:36PM
    You edited your post chucky, but still left all that?

    When can we stop these personal remarks?? Seriously.

    i edited because i had made a mistake in the spelling of a word!?
    Last edited by chucky; Today at 1:57 PM..
    Your Post was at
    post_old.gif Today, 2:22 PM #16

    but seeing that i made the edit at 1:57pm and you wrote your post at 2:22pm it's obvious you're looking for someone to argue with by trying to make it the Graham_Devon show... pfffffff

    edit - macaque Thanked it which i expected him to.
    he has a sense of humour unlike you. he's a cool guy.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    Why don't we just call it the "I don't have a fricking idea like the rest of you" club?

    That's called the Liberal Democrats.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    You may have to wait a bit. It seems a lot of people are trying to access this webpage (panicking bulls by any chance?).

    http://www.citywire.co.uk/personal/-/video/money-property-and-tax/content.aspx?ID=366921&re=7472&ea=174368

    Watched that video, didn't seem very impressive to me, he mentions all the variables except the fact that current medium term interest rates are a lot lower than the average rates in the past i.e. he is trying to work out how people can afford houses at the moment but ignores the obvious.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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