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This is actually mildly positive news, broadly speaking its a bit better than a lot of people were predicting a few months ago.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
This is actually mildly positive news, broadly speaking its a bit better than a lot of people were predicting a few months ago.
YES..The economy is dying but now dying more slowly...:T.It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.0 -
The "Public Sector Net Debt (PSND) inclusive of financial sector intervention" figures give an inaccurate view of Britain's finances.
PSND includes the liabilities on the books of Northern Rock and Bradford & Bingley but does not include their assets (since PSND is Liabilities - Liquid Assets. Mortgages and CDOs are not liquid assets!)
PSND does not yet include RBS nor Lloyds. Integrating these two onto the books is estimated to add another £1-1.5 trillion onto the Public Sector Net Debt figure.
The ONS in its own words:By the end of December 2008, the classification to the public sector of, first, Northern Rock and subsequently Bradford & Bingley had added around £130 billion to PSND. When the Lloyds Banking Group and RBS are included in the public sector finances, ONS has estimated that this will add an additional £1–1.5 trillion to PSND. However, this statistic needs to be treated with caution. The way in which PSND is defined means that illiquid assets held by these banks – in the form of lending to businesses; for mortgages and holdings of corporate bonds – are not taken into account. This is important because the banks’ liabilities are generally matched by their assets. What PSND shows is the extent to which the public sector’s liabilities are matched by assets which can be realised quickly.
The effect on PSND of classifying these banks to the public sector should not be interpreted as meaning that the Government (and by implication the taxpayer) has been saddled with a substantially greater debt burden. The Government has also made clear its intention to return these banks to the private sector, so in the long run the impact on PSND is unlikely to be permanent.
(final page under "interpreting PSND")."The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.0 -
Bullsh1t don't pay the bills.
This is why, despite all the bullsh1t, house prices are going to be lower this time next year.
And even lower the year after."The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
Albert Einstein0 -
I can't help but look at this in abject horror.
Put Martin in charge of The Budget for the next 3 years. We'll be debt free and even have an emergency fund and might be able to afford a holiday as well.Starting Debt: ~£20,000 01/01/2009. DFD: 20/11/2009 :j
Do something amazing. GIVE BLOOD.0 -
Yeah, and the queen will be eating cold beans from the tin too! (I dont think thats a good thing by the way).0
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Nothing wrong with cold beans if it helps.Starting Debt: ~£20,000 01/01/2009. DFD: 20/11/2009 :j
Do something amazing. GIVE BLOOD.0 -
I am quite sure Brown said £800bn would come about in 2011 or 2012...
I bet its not the only premature thing Downing Street suffers from..Not Again0 -
Inflation is now the only option to reduce the real value of the debt.
I expect the Tories will be happy to have the real rate at 10%, hold public sector pay flat and wait for the second term before whacking up interest rates. Why not, when the over-extended middle-classes will be happy to see personal debt inflated away. Too bad on the white-collar redundant of course.
Dave will be all to well aware that Maggie was hated for monetarism and would have lost after 1 term, until the Argies invaded the Falklands and saved her.0
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