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Is 0845 cheaper than calling a national geo number?

babe_ruth_3
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Sorry If im in the wrong place for this question, someone redirect me if I am.
Anyway my question is if I have an 0845 number and their geo number, which is cheapest to call? Bearing in mind that it is a national call. I do not have any cheap rate for national numbers with my provider.
Hope you can help?
Anyway my question is if I have an 0845 number and their geo number, which is cheapest to call? Bearing in mind that it is a national call. I do not have any cheap rate for national numbers with my provider.
Hope you can help?
It is unwise to pay too much but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, all you lose is a little money... that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot...it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better (John Ruskin - 19 ctry author, art critic & social reformer)
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Probably the 0845 number BUT if you have 18866 or similar then the 0845 numbers are in effect a 'Premium' number. There is quite a campaign to get Companies to provide the geographic equivalent number as well as the 0845 number. (see http://www.coldal.org/saynoto0845.htm)
Note: if you have 18866 or similar then you can find most geographic equivalent numbers at saynoto0870.It has taken about 4,500,000,000 (4.5 billion) years for the Earth to form as it is now .........
and it'll only take about another 100 years for mankind to really **** it up!!!!0 -
surely Given the most you are likely to pay to call a landline from a land line is 3p pm the 01/ or 02 number will usually be cheapest as most tariffs no long charge more for NAtional than for local calls ( and likely to apply if using a carrier or a mobile also)Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as (financial) advice.0
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babe_ruth wrote:Sorry If im in the wrong place for this question, someone redirect me if I am.
Anyway my question is if I have an 0845 number and their geo number, which is cheapest to call? Bearing in mind that it is a national call. I do not have any cheap rate for national numbers with my provider.
Hope you can help?
BT's charges to 0845 numbers are 3p/minute weekdays and 1p/minute evenings and weekends (both subject to their mnimum call charge of 5.5p).
You really ought to review your telephony provider(s) if you have no alternatives for cheaper 01 and 02 calls (click on the 'HERE' link in my signature below if you want to do so).Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.0 -
Hey thanks you guys, ive just found martins article about it and it looks like my national rate numbers (daytime) are the same cost of 4p per min as the 0845. I know I should really get another provider but at the moment I can't do with the hassle of changing. Whats this 18866 thing all about then?
Sorry heinz I wrote my reply before I read your post I will have a look at your link nowIt is unwise to pay too much but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, all you lose is a little money... that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot...it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better (John Ruskin - 19 ctry author, art critic & social reformer)0 -
I can see I'm going to need time to study this which is my problem at the mo heinz.
Can you recomend 1899 or 18185? Grumpy old duffer mentioned 18866 is the another prefix with a different rate?
How do I get charged for this service? Sorry for obvious questions and I'm sure the answers our out there somewhere. I can see this site is going to be time consuming. Anyway my problem but thanks you all for your help.
Gotta go out now - be back later for any repliesIt is unwise to pay too much but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, all you lose is a little money... that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot...it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better (John Ruskin - 19 ctry author, art critic & social reformer)0 -
It depends on the numbers you are calling.
From a BT landline, www.call1899.co.uk charge 3p connection and 0p/minute at all times for calls of any duration to UK 01/02 numbers whereas www.call18866.co.uk and www.18185.co.uk charge 4p connection.
However, their rates to international destinations and UK mobiles vary (see the MSE Callcheckers). Of the three, 18185 is currently the cheapest to mobiles - charging 4p connection and 5p/minute (2p/minute at weekends).Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.0 -
The cheapest way to call 0845 etc can be found here on this site;
http://callchecker.moneysavingexpert.com/ukcallchecker/
If you visit https://www.18185.co.uk or https://www.1899.com all is explained, you can pay them by dd,orcredit/debit card.
18185 offers the best overall rates.
1899 is now cheaper then 18866 to call Georaphical Calls.0 -
0845 numbers are revenue sharing numbers,same as 0870 but a bit cheaper, they will always be dearer than 01/02 numbers, if you have a cheap provider like 1899, an example of how they are dearer in the following text that I copied from the "saynoto0870" site:
I have a BT line but use call1899.co.uk to make my peak calls to 01 and 02 numbers for 3p each (as long as I want for a fixed fee of 3p). I also have a package with Primus that gives me free calls to 01 and 02 numbers off-peak. However, instead of 3p per call peak, I have to pay 3p per minute for 0845 calls (it's less off-peak but the rip-off is the same because anything more than the nothing I normally [don't] have to pay is too expensive in my book).
Ignore me though, consider the poor pensioner who has no home telephone and has to make his or her calls from a telephone box.
To call a standard 01 or 02 number, the telephone box flat rate minimum charge of 30p buys a call of up to 15 minutes duration - probably easily long enough for most calls.
If the 'target' number is an 0845 number, that telephone box flat rate minimum charge of 30p buys only the 10p 'connection charge' and 2 time periods - each of 55 seconds. Consequently, that same 30p minimum charge would run out after only 1 minute 50 seconds - probably just time enough to hear the first set of "Press this, press that" instructions on one of those awful automated systems.
So consider what that 15 minute call would cost if it had to be to an 0845 number instead of an 01 or 02 number.
There are just over 16 periods of 55 second in 15 minutes so, at 10p for each, the call would cost the telephone box flat rate minimum charge of 30p plus 15 more time periods at 10p each.
OK, I'll save you the bother - £1.80 How much loose change do you carry?
That's why 0845 numbers are evil - they rip us all off and they rip off the less fortunate proportionately more.Don`t steal - the Government doesn`t like the competition0 -
derrick, the OP was asking about from a landline, so the lecture about callboxes could have been left as just a link
Heinz has given the best advice - it's the same price from BT, but this is a impetus to review call providers0 -
redux wrote:derrick, the OP was asking about from a landline, so the lecture about callboxes could have been left as just a link
Heinz has given the best advice - it's the same price from BT, but this is a impetus to review call providers
Yes it was, but the first paragraph relates to landlines and I thought the rest deserved a wider audience to show disbelievers just what these numbers are all about, ripping off the phone users,it is not a lecture, but facts, also as I have copied this into my documents, i could not provide a link.
Heinz is only right up to a point, it is only the same during the day, (but not if you use 1899 or similar), but at weekends and evenings it is much dearer,
01/02 5.5p for up to 1 hour, an hour for 0845 would be 60p, you may not be on an hour, but then you might, i.e. HMRC, DWP etc.Don`t steal - the Government doesn`t like the competition0
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