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The Times go all 'doomster'
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/investment/article5732533.ece
Some good investment advice in the article, actually. Hopefully people will get the message and take the gravity of the unfolding economic disaster seriously.
Is armageddon round the corner? Not quite, but it may not be too soon to start planning for it. Frontrunner for the Cassandra of the month award is Ed Balls, the schools secretary, for his prediction that this could be the worst financial shock for more than a century.
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So here is my armageddon portfolio. The relative proportions are up to you, and leave room to follow a hunch or two. Everything has to be watched every day, because the game can change in an instant.
First priority is self-reliance. Past British governments have found ways to wriggle out of their obligations, so beware so-called gilt-edged stock and pensions.
I believe the burden of paying pensions, both for civil servants and the rest of us, is going to become so great that they will be devalued. Final salary schemes for public-sector workers may have to end, and the state pension’s inflation link could be cut back or even removed.
So save as much as you can, but put your money in different banks or building societies, and keep healthy so you can keep earning for as long as possible.
While interest rates are so low, go for index-linked savings as inflation-proofing will often outweigh the interest
And, as in the 1980s, store extra food. Balls voiced the growing fear of social unrest, which is more probable the longer the crisis continues.
I am not suggesting boarding up your front windows, just buying a little more in case of shortages. It may seem ridiculously early to hoard, but it could very quickly become too late.
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As a portable store of wealth I have recommended gold in the past, and you should have some in a safe place. It will keep its value better than currencies, which are tumbling over one another as they fall. If you wait you should be able to buy at less than $900 an ounce.
Some good investment advice in the article, actually. Hopefully people will get the message and take the gravity of the unfolding economic disaster seriously.
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Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
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happiness dont sell papers.
forgot to say get some guns , stockpile fuel and dried foods and get some mre rations.
Oh and learn russian/chinese etc.Have you tried turning it off and on again?0 -
when i was last in tesco.....all the bags of tesco value rice at 79p had sold out..........
looks like people having started hoarding!0 -
I don't understand that bit. If currencies are tumbling, how will waiting help you to buy gold cheaper?[Gold] will keep its value better than currencies, which are tumbling over one another as they fall. If you wait you should be able to buy at less than $900 an ounce.0 -
The article went on further...
"Don’t ignore the stock market. Companies providing the basics will continue to do well, including Tesco, J Sainsbury, Associated British Foods and Marks & Spencer. Buy a mixture of their shares and corporate bonds.
Equity-income funds, such as Neil Woodford’s Invesco, are still popular, but dividends are going to become scarce. If you are feeling more positive, look at venture-capital trusts (VCTs), many of which are becoming more like vulture-capital trusts.
Mark Wignall, chief executive of Matrix Private Equity, said: “Most smaller-company owners have not yet fully faced up to the implications of the fundamental shift in market trading and credit conditions. Many will need external capital to develop their business or indeed to survive and so turn to VCTs for investment.”
VCTs are tax shelters. You can invest up to £200,000 a year, with a 30% income-tax rebate on that, no capital gains tax and dividends that are tax-free — though I wouldn’t count on a dividend.
You must stay in for at least five years, though, to qualify for the tax breaks, and it can be difficult to get out after that unless the management breaks up the trust.
Charges are high, often 5% of your investment, though specialist brokers such as Bestinvest offer discounts.
I like Downing Protected VCTs, which aim at preserving capital and returning investors’ money within six years.
A quarter of your money goes into cash and bonds, the rest into asset-rich companies such as pubs, children’s nurseries, garden centres or health clubs. And Downing takes a legal charge over those assets so that if things go wrong the trust can sell them.
That is the sort of nailed-down approach to taking a stake in the future that fits this climate. A lot of these businesses will keep going in tough times, and they will boom when the upturn comes. "
Pretty much reflects what I'm doing at the moment (the stockmarket bit, not the stockpiling of food - which I personally think was a little tongue in cheek). I've done well over the last couple of weeks with Premier Foods and Dairy Crest and I've also made money on Banking shares, but these are obviously to be viewed as higher risk than the food producers.
As I said on a different thread, don't be too timid to take advantage of the current turmoil in the economy. A lot of large, solid companies currently have their share prices on the floor and represent real bargains at the moment. When the economy recovers, shares in these companies will climb and your wealth with climb with them.
Don't be ruled by fear, take advantage of both the slump in the sotckmarket and in the housing market and in a few years time you will reap the dividend. Only mug punters buy when the market is high - you're already too late, the smart money got in on the floor and are selling out before the peak.Mortgage Free in 3 Years (Apr 2007 / Currently / Δ Difference)
[strike]● Interest Only Pt: £36,924.12 / £ - - - - 1.00 / Δ £36,923.12[/strike] - Paid off! Yay!!
● Home Extension: £48,468.07 / £44,435.42 / Δ £4032.65
● Repayment Part: £64,331.11 / £59,877.15 / Δ £4453.96
Total Mortgage Debt: £149,723.30 / £104,313.57 / Δ £45,409.730 -
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I love reading some of these old bear posts.... what ever happened to the wonderfully named !!!!!!? Another one of the bears who has gone very quiet in recent times
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nollag2006 wrote: »I love reading some of these old bear posts.... what ever happened to the wonderfully named !!!!!!? Another one of the bears who has gone very quiet in recent times

Erm, he was banned, wasn't he?“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Erm, he was banned, wasn't he?
Not sure that he was.
This is his last post from Feb 2009:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=18844431&highlight=#post18844431
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Maybe he found something more stimulating to do on a Saturday night than obsessively search through old posts on an internet forum. Perhaps you could follow his example?nollag2006 wrote: »Not sure that he was.
This is his last post from Feb 2009:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=18844431&highlight=#post18844431
Looks like he just stormed off in a huff
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No, not banned....maybe got a bit fed up with the board at the time?Erm, he was banned, wasn't he?
I liked !!!!!!'s posts and insight and miss his input a lot.
He was a decent, smart type and a thinking person who had his own view on events but was able to see others situations in context too ........only IMHO of course.0
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