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So you can confirm you raised your vitamin D3 status to over 50ng 125nmol/l. by taking 5000iu/daily for 3months at least AND you corrected your omega 3 status with at least 1.5g of EPA+DHA daily, AND your raised your magnesium intake AND followed a low carb paleo style diet avoiding milk products for at least 3 months. You are claiming you took all those measures to reduce your pro inflammatory status simultaneously and they had no effectregan.lottie wrote: »I had literally tried EVERYTHING .
I simply doubt you did.
Therefore you should NOT put people off following a NATURAL SAFE solution BEFORE using drugs that are known to produce nasty side effects.
It is the case that people getting daily sun exposure and eating traditional diets rather than western foods DO NOT get acne at any stage of their development.
Therefore this condition is related to diet/lifestyle.
Eliminating the cause of a condition is better than simply treating the symptoms, though of course those with a financial interest or whose jobs depend on an ever increasing stream of new patients will want to put you off the safe natural approach and promote their own vested interests.My weight loss following Doktor Dahlqvist' Dietary Program
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thanks for your help.it certainly is proof that the natural way works for me and i dont need to go to the doctors and use the main-stream treatments available.i hope others will look into the use of omega 3 to help them with acne.but as always some things work for some and not others.wins so far...
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i think this is the most important thing - having a go at people for reporting what worked for them (clearly i don't mean you, btw) is really quite insensitive. this is a condition that really damages self confidence and self esteem and it is a real shame that an agenda is being pushed about this whilst trying to stamp down other opinions..... there is never one single cause for acne and people respond differently to different treatments.but as always some things work for some and not others.:happyhear0 -
indeed melancholly.my son started work at Mcdonalds a year ago.he soon started with the spots on the fore-head.it was caused by the grease on his fringe.his hair has grown now and is tied back and kept off his face and the spots have now gone.
i do think its trial and error as we are all different.wins so far...
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But the science shows that increases in dietary glycemic load may augment the biological activity of sex hormones and IGF-I, suggesting that these diets (high glycemic load) may aggravate potential factors involved in acne development So reducing the glycemic load reduces the excess hormonal activity and reduces the cause of the problem. (there are other benefits arising from a low carb diet but that is another whole thread)melancholly wrote: »there is never one single cause for acne and people respond differently to different treatments.
There is good evidence to support low carb diets for acne. It is wrong that this evidence should be ignored simply because people can't make money out of it.
The effect of a low glycemic load diet on acne vulgaris and the fatty acid composition of skin surface triglycerides.
If we know (or think we know) what contributing excess hormone that gives rise to the acne then eliminating or reducing one cause of excess hormonal activity is surely better (although less profitable) than continually treating the symptoms.
We know when people ensure their daily D3 requirement it met in full they have improved feelings of wellbeing. so even if it doesn't contribute to curing/reducing the acne there will be benefits.
We know also that research is showing that shifting this ratio-by increased consumption of fatty fish or fish oil supplements-may provide significant health benefits. Reductions in cardiovascular risk, depression, and rheumatoid arthritis symptoms have been correlated with omega-3 fatty acid intake, and there is increased interest in the use of omega-3 fatty acid supplementation for other psychiatric illnesses and prevention of Alzheimer's disease So even if the omega 3 doesn't reduce the acne it will not be money wasted.
We know also that a diet low in magnesium and high in sucrose causes oxidative stress so reducing the carbs and increasing magnesium may reduce this stress.My weight loss following Doktor Dahlqvist' Dietary Program
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Ted has obviously read a lot on this subject and I have to say that a lot of what he says makes a lot of sense. But we are all different and I think there may well be a lot of acne sufferers who won't get any benefit from simply changing their diets. I don't think it is fair to say that people who prescribe antibiotics and other treatments are simply exercising a vested interest. I can think of one very open minded and intelligent medical practitioner who was very keen to find diets that would help with acne, but he simply could not get the results. This was on very severe acne patients that were referred to him because nothing was working for them (if I give any more detail you will be able to identify him).
It may well be the case that our western life style has the effect of causing acne, but unfortunately we have to live with the world we have. I have become very impressed by the arguments linking diet and acne, but I think that medical acne treatments are going to be with us for a long time to come and will continue to be prescribed for a long time to come. And rightly so - not everyone can radically change their lifestyle.Student of the science of beauty0 -
that MAY be true but you will not know until you try and as this is a cheap moneysaving solution then it should be the first choice solution and not the last.beautyscientist wrote: »there may well be a lot of acne sufferers who won't get any benefit from simply changing their diets.
If you read The Diet Delusion you may understand better how the research has been manipulated and how the evidence has been biased. I am not saying individual doctors or pharmacists are personally seeking to gain from promoting prescription remedies but for the most part their continuing education is funded by big pharma and big pharma will not be leading pharmacists/doctors into low cost solutions.I don't think it is fair to say that people who prescribe antibiotics and other treatments are simply exercising a vested interest.
I have no doubt you are right that simply altering diet alone without correcting Vit D3, Omega 3 Magnesium status will produce limited results. Think about it. What did early man/woman wear? What do people in hunter gatherer societies wear? What kind of Vitamin D status will wearing few clothes and leading an outdoor life create?I can think of one very open minded and intelligent medical practitioner who was very keen to find diets that would help with acne, but he simply could not get the results. This was on very severe acne patients that were referred to him because nothing was working for them (if I give any more detail you will be able to identify him).
I will bet you any money you like that your open minded intelligent medical practitioner did NOT correct D3 status to the natural level our bodies strive to attain and maintain given regular full body sun exposure.
If he did try to correct Vit d status I will also bet he used the form of Vit D most readily available and thus he used the least effective form.
I also will say it's almost certain he would not have used an EFFECTIVE amount. Anyone who knows the first thing about D3 is that sunlight produces around 10,000iu in a relatively short time. Standard practice in the UK is to use 400-800iu and that does diddly squat.
Acne and the Sugar Connection I am not the only person who thinks an anti - inflammatory diet (that the role of D3, Omega 3, mangesium, all anti inflammatory agents) helps acne.
Treat Acne with a Low Glycemic Diet
True but I also live in the real world and can manage perfectly easily to live without refined carbs.It may well be the case that our western life style has the effect of causing acne, but unfortunately we have to live with the world we have.
I don't think having a cooked breakfast, lunch and evening meals without bread/pasta/rice/sugar/high fructose corn syrup and limiting beer/wine intake is a radical life style change. It's really very simple and very easy, even I can manage it.not everyone can radically change their lifestyle.
I think the role of health professionals is to urge people to make sensible health improving changes to their diets/lifestyles, not simply to facilitate the eating of crap junk food and leading unhealthy lifestyles in the knowledge that the companies that urge the ever increasing consumption of hfcs, hydrogenated fats, etc. are linked to the companies producing the medicines to correct the inevitable consequences of the unhealthy foods/drinks their associated companies supply.My weight loss following Doktor Dahlqvist' Dietary Program
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Ted_Hutchinson wrote: »
Therefore you should NOT put people off following a NATURAL SAFE solution BEFORE using drugs that are known to produce nasty side effects.
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I would just like to point out that I had explicitly said that everyone is different and I said that they shouldn't rush onto it especially at a young age. So i would appreciate you not talking to me like that.
And I have been changing a lot to my diet before and after even considering roaccutane. I even gave up a lot of food and drinks. I was so depressed about everything I lost time of school etc.
I had grade 4 acne not just the random spot. I do know what I am talking about. But EVERYONE is different and sometimes a diet change just is not enough.
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what would I know, have a go if you wish, I am simply inputting what I have learnt through the past five years. NSD's: 12/12 Oct 10/15 Nov0 -
Oh dear
im sure this was just for people to say what has and hasn't worked for them,with a view to giving others idea's to try if they wish.
whether prescribed by the doctor or brought over the counter it remains the same, they will work for some and not others.
my omega 3 cure may not suit others simply because they cant swallow pills.
therefore any other suggestions are more than welcomewins so far...
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Clean twice a day with a suitable antibacterial cleanser, pat skin dry, don't rub it, add oxy10 or oxy5 then moisturise with a light moisturiser.
Done twice a day this can help.
I'm 38 and still have spots, the only 2 thing to have helped is oxy10 (from chemist only) and stopping working in an environment where my hands were usually dirty, and then touching my face without realising, such as wiping sweat away or scratching an itch.Member of the first Mortgage Free in 3 challenge, no.19
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