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Have a large amount of cash that needs investing

Wilsonio
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Hello All!
My Father recently passed away and left my mum and me with a large amount of cash, but we just dont know what to do.
We have about 300k After all the tax has been deducted and want to invest this cash which will pay out monthly to support my mother living costs etc.
We have had investment advice from lloyds and here is the picture:
We have maxed out both our ISA's and now the cash is sitting in a normal savings account, and my mum is unhappy about the lack of detail and help they have given her and therefore want to look at other places.
The key thing is that my mum wants minimal/no risk and has to have monthly payment/interest for her living.
I was thinking dividing up the sum into 30k lots and then going about business that way, thus spreading our risk around.
Anyone have any advice/knowledge on where to put some of these 30k lots?
Sorry, but mine and my mums knowledge is pretty low when it comes to this sort of thing, and believe we can get a better deal than what we are already getting
Thanks
James
My Father recently passed away and left my mum and me with a large amount of cash, but we just dont know what to do.
We have about 300k After all the tax has been deducted and want to invest this cash which will pay out monthly to support my mother living costs etc.
We have had investment advice from lloyds and here is the picture:
We have maxed out both our ISA's and now the cash is sitting in a normal savings account, and my mum is unhappy about the lack of detail and help they have given her and therefore want to look at other places.
The key thing is that my mum wants minimal/no risk and has to have monthly payment/interest for her living.
I was thinking dividing up the sum into 30k lots and then going about business that way, thus spreading our risk around.
Anyone have any advice/knowledge on where to put some of these 30k lots?
Sorry, but mine and my mums knowledge is pretty low when it comes to this sort of thing, and believe we can get a better deal than what we are already getting
Thanks
James
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We have had investment advice from lloyds and here is the picture:
You mean you were given information on a limited and expensive range of products.and my mum is unhappy about the lack of detail and help they have given her and therefore want to look at other places.
Lloyds are tied sales reps. They only have a handful of products and not too many funds. Her expectations were never going to be met.The key thing is that my mum wants minimal/no risk and has to have monthly payment/interest for her living.
Not possible. If she goes in products of no investment risk then the interest/income will mean that her capital value is eroding in real terms. She would experience the equivalent of a major stockmarket crash in real terms every 6 or so years. i.e. £300k would have the spending power of around £190k in 10 years time. The interest will have less buying power as well.I was thinking dividing up the sum into 30k lots and then going about business that way, thus spreading our risk around.
Thats not really spreading the risk. Thats just creating extra admin and making it harder for your mum.
Is your mum over 65? will her income be over £21,800?Sorry, but mine and my mums knowledge is pretty low when it comes to this sort of thing, and believe we can get a better deal than what we are already getting
You are never going to get the best advice and products from a bank. You mother also needs to be taught a little about investing and the pros and cons of the options. She is not going to have a nil risk option when it comes to income. So, its a case of balancing what is acceptable risk. Also, she may need to be concerned about tax as she could wipe out her age allowance (if she is over 65) fairly easily by picking the wrong products or sector allocation/investment strategy.I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0 -
Perhaps she / you should forget the word Invest and use Save, then find savings accounts which pay out monthly, many do have this option
That way is nil risk to capital
The savings accounts whilst limited to 35k if the instution fails the failure and loss for savers would IMO not really be likely, I base this on UK based and not foreign ones, like India, Nigeria etc
Maybe worth a punt on Premium Bonds? No monthly payout, but you never know, and she can opt for cash winings not more bonds
You could try Martin's savings selector for first cut
PS or try Moneyfacts
http://www.moneyfacts.co.uk/savings/bestbuys/default.aspxNumerus non sum0 -
OP,
I would strongly suggest that you see an IFA to discuss your investment requirements. Find out more at unbiased.co.uk
dunstonh,
I realise you must be sick of answering what to do with £XXXk type of posts. However, your response was somewhat pedantic and to be honest of little use to the OP.In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:0 -
Ok, thanks for highlighting the mistakes,
She is over 65 yes, and no she is not earning over 21k, and we arnt in danger of hitting the 21k limit anytime soon.
you also highlighted the extra admin work for her, but I reckon this would be the best option as If the bank/building society went broke the she would get back 100% of the money, as well as taking advantage of the bonuses for new customers out there.0 -
She is over 65 yes, and no she is not earning over 21k, and we arnt in danger of hitting the 21k limit anytime soon.
She could be. Interest/income from the £300k could be £15-17k. Add state pension on top she could be through that 21k.I reckon this would be the best option as If the bank/building society went broke the she would get back 100% of the money, as well as taking advantage of the bonuses for new customers out there.
What are you going to do to cover inflation?
At the moment you are focusing on the very remote chance a bank may fail and the even more unlikely outcome that the Govt wouldnt step in. Yet the highest risk is inflation as that is a guaranteed risk to her money if placed in saving accounts.
You need to work out what income is needed to see if some can be earmarked to provide growth. You do need to consider tax as she is likely to be far closer to that £21k than you realise. You also need to weigh up all risks and not just one particular risk. Often with these things a combination of things is required and going 100% into one area is likely to the wrong thing.dunstonh,
I realise you must be sick of answering what to do with £XXXk type of posts. However, your response was somewhat pedantic and to be honest of little use to the OP.
There wasnt a lot of information in the post to give an answer. Inflation is the biggest risk to savers taking an income, so i pointed that out. She had sought advice from a tied sales rep which is never the place to get advice, so again pointed that out and then asked some more questions to help narrow down the options. What else is there to do at this point in a thread?I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0 -
Firstly I really appreciate your advice, dun . You are helping me greatly(more so than lloyds) :beer:
I have taken inflation into account, inflation at the moment is 2.7% and I have found an interest saver with 5.088% Net in which I shall be looking more into.
I think I have also found a gem in the Natwest Combi Saver Green edition, which has a net rate of 6.22%, which amazed me. Its a two part investment with the otherside being a 3.5 year investment into the Green index, in which the capital is secure and the market for the future looks really worthwhile.
Thanks
James0 -
inflation at the moment is 2.7%0
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You should also consider putting some money into Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway - this firm truly owns some great businesses.
Google for more details.
It is not without its risk but we have been invested for a number of years and it is a truly outstanding investment."Brevity is the soul of wit and it is also the essence of effective communication" Rush Limbaugh.0 -
There is a strong argument here for Index Linked National Savings Certificates to the maximum of the current issue.0
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Cook_County wrote: »There is a strong argument here for Index Linked National Savings Certificates to the maximum of the current issue.
She needs a monthly income according to the poster so this is not suitable.
I think you should establish the following
1. How much income do you need? There is nothing worse than taking income you dont need and then saving it up again.
It is possible to create an overall portfolio to provide an income you need with some potential for capital growth on the capital without taking big risks.
All portfolios of this size should have some exposure to cash for short term needs and bonds and equities for longer term needs and to protect against inflation (Which is currently closer to 5% than the stated 2.7%). The level of risk taken is really up to you but there are products out there for all levels of risk.
You should really seek advice from an IFA for this amount of money but make sure you are comfortable with them and their charging structures before committing to anything. As with bank advisors there are some good IFA's and some poor ones. A recommendation may prove useful or ask if you are more comfortable ask a bank to refer you to their IFA arm if they have one.0
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