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Placing residential property into a SIPP

Is this a practical proposition?



The value is likely to be below the stamp duty limit so minimal cost on transfer.

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  • Malthusian
    Malthusian Posts: 11,055 Forumite
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    No, as residential property isn't allowed in SIPPs.

    (If you want to be pedantic, it's allowed if you pay heavy tax penalties, but in reality I don't think any SIPP provider would allow you to do it.)
  • Mikexx
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    Many thank for the quick reply.

    Is this still the case where the property is held in a Ltd company?

    What are these 'heavy tax penalties'?
  • HappyHarry
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    Mikexx wrote: »
    Many thank for the quick reply.

    Is this still the case where the property is held in a Ltd company?

    What are these 'heavy tax penalties'?

    If the property is held in a Ltd company, then it wont be held in a pension.

    'Heavy tax penalties' are between 70% and 95% of the property value.
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pension-schemes-and-unauthorised-payments
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  • Aegis
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    Mikexx wrote: »
    Many thank for the quick reply.

    Is this still the case where the property is held in a Ltd company?

    What are these 'heavy tax penalties'?
    Unless it's a limited company traded on a major exchange, you'd be very lucky to even get company shares into a pension any more. Most providers just won't go near it, and those that will (at least a couple of years ago when I was last asked about this) charge very significant sums for the privilege.

    The penalties in question are the unauthorised payment charges:

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/pensions-tax-manual/ptm121000#IDAESOQB

    In summary, 40% charge on the balance of the investment, plus a further 25% scheme sanction charge and potentially a further still 15% surcharge.

    In short, you wouldn't want to risk it!
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  • Malthusian
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    Mikexx wrote: »
    Many thank for the quick reply.

    Is this still the case where the property is held in a Ltd company?

    AIUI, if the property is held in a limited company you pay corporation tax on net rental income and capital gains, then there's the 15% stamp duty if the property is worth more than £500,000. So before we get to the issue of whether any provider will accept shares in the limited company, why's the property in the limited company?
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