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    • Nathaniel Essex
    • By Nathaniel Essex 25th Apr 18, 3:21 PM
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    New job and still no contract
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    • 25th Apr 18, 3:21 PM
    New job and still no contract 25th Apr 18 at 3:21 PM
    Any reason for this? Previously I have received a contract pretty much as soon as accepting the job offer.

    I got offered the job more than a month ago and started Monday. I sent back a form confirming back details and the likes and was told a contract will soon follow. Last week I was getting a bit nervous as I heard nothing in regards to my first day or the contract but I then got a call from my new boss confirming a few details and said he will get on the HR person regarding the contract.

    Started this week and still no contract has been signed. I brought it up Tuesday and told the same thing about HR is working on it. Should I stop working until they get it sorted?
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    • _shel
    • By _shel 25th Apr 18, 4:15 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 4:15 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 4:15 PM
    Any reason for this? Previously I have received a contract pretty much as soon as accepting the job offer.

    I got offered the job more than a month ago and started Monday. I sent back a form confirming back details and the likes and was told a contract will soon follow. Last week I was getting a bit nervous as I heard nothing in regards to my first day or the contract but I then got a call from my new boss confirming a few details and said he will get on the HR person regarding the contract.

    Started this week and still no contract has been signed. I brought it up Tuesday and told the same thing about HR is working on it. Should I stop working until they get it sorted?
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex
    Stop working if you want to be dismissed!

    Why the need for the contact? They only have to give you terms of employment and an unwritten contract is formed by you working there.
    • NeilCr
    • By NeilCr 25th Apr 18, 4:18 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 4:18 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 4:18 PM
    They have two months to get a statement to you.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/basic-rights-and-contracts/contracts-of-employment/#h-employee-s-right-to-written-details-about-the-employment-contract

    As shel says - stop work - lose job
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 25th Apr 18, 5:54 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 5:54 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 5:54 PM
    How big is the company as that can have a bearing don!!!8217;t forget OP.
    If it is a very big site then sometimes things might not get to you as soon as.

    Just keep asking in a considerate way like you have done and I!!!8217;m sure all will end well.
    Last edited by keepcalmandstayoutofdebt; 25-04-2018 at 5:55 PM. Reason: .
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 25th Apr 18, 7:13 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 7:13 PM
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    • 25th Apr 18, 7:13 PM
    What does the contract have in it that you are so desperate for? Even with the written contract they could still dismiss you for no reason with limited notice; it brings you no added security unless the notice periods etc in it are much more generous than the legal minimums.
    • Nathaniel Essex
    • By Nathaniel Essex 16th May 18, 9:23 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 9:23 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 9:23 PM
    What does the contract have in it that you are so desperate for? Even with the written contract they could still dismiss you for no reason with limited notice; it brings you no added security unless the notice periods etc in it are much more generous than the legal minimums.
    Originally posted by ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    Just find it unusual. Every job I have had I have signed a contract before starting. In fact, I remember being told I can't start until it is signed.

    Just remembered about it. A few weeks in now and still no contract.
    • anamenottaken
    • By anamenottaken 16th May 18, 10:12 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 10:12 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 10:12 PM
    Just find it unusual. Every job I have had I have signed a contract before starting. In fact, I remember being told I can't start until it is signed.

    Just remembered about it. A few weeks in now and still no contract.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex

    Was it your current employing organisation that said you couldn't start until you had signed? If so, and you are working there, it clearly was wrong. If it was some other employer, they may have wanted that but it isn't a legal requirement.
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 17th May 18, 9:15 AM
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    • 17th May 18, 9:15 AM
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    • 17th May 18, 9:15 AM
    Just find it unusual. Every job I have had I have signed a contract before starting. In fact, I remember being told I can't start until it is signed.

    Just remembered about it. A few weeks in now and still no contract.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex
    So again, why do you care so much that you would even consider stopping working? What do you think you will gain from having a contract?
    • Dox
    • By Dox 17th May 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 17th May 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 17th May 18, 10:34 AM
    Just find it unusual. Every job I have had I have signed a contract before starting. In fact, I remember being told I can't start until it is signed.

    Just remembered about it. A few weeks in now and still no contract.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex
    Doesn't sound as if it is anything more serious than an incompetent or over-stretched HR department.

    You have a contract; it isn't in writing, but your T&C should be confirmed soon.
    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 17th May 18, 10:44 AM
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    Just find it unusual. Every job I have had I have signed a contract before starting. In fact, I remember being told I can't start until it is signed.

    Just remembered about it. A few weeks in now and still no contract.
    Originally posted by Nathaniel Essex

    Welcome to the real world.


    So you have had good times before. If you wanted a contract before the job you should have made it a requirement, of course the likely outcome is you would not have been hired.


    Maybe you moved from a place with in house HR to outsourced.


    There are countless reasons why this occurs. And most of them are not bad.


    So either put up with it and chase appropriately (only you know what is appropriate unless you tell us where you work and someone else knows the score) or get a new job. They do not even have to give you a contract if you get nothing above statutory rights anyway.
    • bugslet
    • By bugslet 17th May 18, 10:58 AM
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    Obviously it depends on the job and the role, but with us, we don't usually raise a contract till about a month in. Sometimes people find the job of international trucking is not as glamorous as they thought and decide to go back to something less onerous. It means I'm not wasting my time by delaying
    • robatwork
    • By robatwork 17th May 18, 2:09 PM
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    Obviously it depends on the job and the role, but with us, we don't usually raise a contract till about a month in. Sometimes people find the job of international trucking is not as glamorous as they thought
    Originally posted by bugslet
    Having just driven through all of Belgium and the Netherlands (and much of the rest of mainland Europe) I quite understand.

    At least it gets interesting around the Alps.
    • bugslet
    • By bugslet 17th May 18, 4:39 PM
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    Having just driven through all of Belgium and the Netherlands (and much of the rest of mainland Europe) I quite understand.

    At least it gets interesting around the Alps.
    Originally posted by robatwork
    Belgium, Netherlands, that's locals
    • robatwork
    • By robatwork 17th May 18, 8:25 PM
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    Flat and smooth. Like Norfolk with decent roads.
    • MarkN88
    • By MarkN88 18th May 18, 7:40 AM
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    I!!!8217;ve had many jobs where my contract took several months this to arrive on my desk or for me to be called into an HR office to get it and hand it back in don!!!8217;t worry too much as long as you are aware of the terms and conditions of your job that!!!8217;s all you need to know and I!!!8217;m assuming you do as it would of been a terrible idea to verbally accept not knowing anything regarding issues such as pay, leave, hours of work, notice requirements etc
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