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    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 31st Mar 18, 1:59 PM
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    Edinburgh City Centre is becoming a dump
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    • 31st Mar 18, 1:59 PM
    Edinburgh City Centre is becoming a dump 31st Mar 18 at 1:59 PM
    Harsh words I know but I've just come back from holiday in Malaga where the streets were absolutely spotless. We noticed that they had cleaners out night & day and they actually looked like they took pride in their work.

    I have spoken to lots of friends and work colleagues who work in the city centre and we all feel that our once beautiful city is becoming an eye sore. Apart from the litter, there's graffiti everywhere and bins that clearly haven't been emptied in weeks.

    Rather than complaining to Edinburgh Council it runs in my mind that if someone can get X amount of names on a petition then it has to be brought up at First Minister's Question Time. Can anyone give me any advice on how I can get anything done?

    I'm not on Facebook or Twitter.

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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 31st Mar 18, 3:28 PM
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    You only just noticed this...?

    Edinburgh stopped being a good place to visit some time ago - for me, around 2004.

    Since then I've only visited when I absolutely had to. Which is a shame as I'd enjoyed being there many times before.

    I think the council are fully aware and in some ways part of the problem - OK, I know they have to juggle the interests of residents and visitors but it often seems to me that neither have been served well for a long time now.
    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 31st Mar 18, 4:54 PM
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    You're probably correct about the Council but why in heaven's name do they keep doing vanity projects when the city centre is falling apart. Someone needs to get back to basics.

    My heart used to swell when I told visitors staying with me how proud I was of this historic city but now I'm just embarrassed with the drunkenness, the filth and tartan trash souvenir shops on Princes Street.
    • Voyager2002
    • By Voyager2002 31st Mar 18, 6:49 PM
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    You're probably correct about the Council but why in heaven's name do they keep doing vanity projects when the city centre is falling apart. Someone needs to get back to basics.

    My heart used to swell when I told visitors staying with me how proud I was of this historic city but now I'm just embarrassed with the drunkenness, the filth and tartan trash souvenir shops on Princes Street.
    Originally posted by maggiesoup1
    Never mind all that... don't the trams make you proud?
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 1st Apr 18, 4:14 AM
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    • 1st Apr 18, 4:14 AM
    Only when they finish the project and make it into a proper network..!
    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 1st Apr 18, 12:56 PM
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    • 1st Apr 18, 12:56 PM
    Not worth the pain of the city being torn apart for years and built on a route to the airport which was being perfectly well serviced with the wonderful airport bus
    • dekaspace
    • By dekaspace 1st Apr 18, 3:24 PM
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    • 1st Apr 18, 3:24 PM
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    • 1st Apr 18, 3:24 PM
    I have noticed this and not even from Edinburgh, theres the rich/poor divide like any city and ethnic.foreign areas I was shocked when I even saw student lets, unfurnished, no bills included like 600 a month per room!


    Then of course the extortionate rates at tourist traps.


    So not much worse than any city was impressed with it pre 2001 when I didnt go for about 6 years.
    • batg
    • By batg 2nd Apr 18, 9:07 PM
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    Been to Edinburgh twice in the last 4 months and was astounded at the lack of Scottish accents. I could have been in any city in the world, and I did not like it.
    And you are right, the tat they sell on Princes Street is horrible. Not a single Scottish person working in any of those shops either.
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    • missile
    • By missile 2nd Apr 18, 9:10 PM
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    You could make the same observations in many cities.
    "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
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    • batg
    • By batg 2nd Apr 18, 9:18 PM
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    indeed you could.
    But I spent lots of time in Scotland and went to Edinburgh five or six times before these last two when younger.
    I went these last 2 times because it was a nice Scottish city. My eyes were well and truly opened. It was no longer "scottish" in my opinion and I was very disappointed.
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    • fewcloudy
    • By fewcloudy 4th Apr 18, 3:28 PM
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    Born and bred here, love it! I mean, I really love it and proud of it, wouldn't stay anywhere else. Not remotely interested in whether someone living here has a Scottish accent or not, really?
    Most capital cities of the world would be the same; exactly what you'd expect in a cosmopolitan metropolis
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    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 5th Apr 18, 3:11 PM
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    Born and bred here, love it! I mean, I really love it and proud of it, wouldn't stay anywhere else. Not remotely interested in whether someone living here has a Scottish accent or not, really?
    Most capital cities of the world would be the same; exactly what you'd expect in a cosmopolitan metropolis
    Originally posted by fewcloudy
    10 years ago I would have said exactly the same, so proud of being from Edinburgh but, as recently seen in Malaga, it is not like any other cosmopolitan city, it's now a tip. For an UNESCO city, it's an embarrassment.
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 5th Apr 18, 4:44 PM
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    which was being perfectly well serviced with the wonderful airport bus
    Originally posted by maggiesoup1

    <splutter> You were doing quite well up to that point..!
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 6th Apr 18, 6:34 AM
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    Born and bred here, love it! I mean, I really love it and proud of it, wouldn't stay anywhere else. Not remotely interested in whether someone living here has a Scottish accent or not, really?
    Most capital cities of the world would be the same; exactly what you'd expect in a cosmopolitan metropolis
    Originally posted by fewcloudy
    It's not a proper capital city - it's inhabitants voted against being that in 2014!

    It's got third rate transport infrastructure ( I even recall Edinburgh Council with the begging bowl out to pay for the trams) to say nothing of all the awful cobbles and pointless 20mph speed limit.
    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 20th Apr 18, 6:34 PM
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    Couldn't agree more. Add the hundreds of pot holes too - let's move to Malaga.
    • fewcloudy
    • By fewcloudy 20th Apr 18, 6:51 PM
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    Good. Close the door on your way out...
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    • maggiesoup1
    • By maggiesoup1 22nd Apr 18, 4:28 PM
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    Yes, and it's posters like you we're trying to get away from too.
    • koalakoala
    • By koalakoala 24th Jun 18, 7:59 PM
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    Totally agree. Can't move on the pavements for beggars. It is so scruffy now
    • bluebear36
    • By bluebear36 12th Aug 18, 8:29 PM
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    It's not a proper capital city - it's inhabitants voted against being that in 2014!

    It's got third rate transport infrastructure ( I even recall Edinburgh Council with the begging bowl out to pay for the trams) to say nothing of all the awful cobbles and pointless 20mph speed limit.
    Originally posted by Heng Leng
    As a resident of Edinburgh for decades, I don't recall ever voting, let along being asked about, whether Edinburgh should still be Scotland's capital city. No mention on Google of that either. Do you actually mean the independence referendum which was for something completely different?

    As for transport - I use several bus services daily and can't say that I have a problem with the service from Lothian Buses. They've just won Scottish Bus Operator of 2018, so must be doing something right.

    Do you even live in Edinburgh? If so, you sound dreadfully uninformed!!
    • bluebear36
    • By bluebear36 12th Aug 18, 8:36 PM
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    Been to Edinburgh twice in the last 4 months and was astounded at the lack of Scottish accents. I could have been in any city in the world, and I did not like it.
    And you are right, the tat they sell on Princes Street is horrible. Not a single Scottish person working in any of those shops either.
    Originally posted by batg
    That'll be all the English living in Edinburgh, who realise that they'll get a lower crime rate and better standard of living here, than in the majority of English cities.

    Can't say I've ever noticed non-Scots in the Princes Street stores, as I always seem to be served by Scottish staff. When you visit London, do you always expect to be served in shops by people with London accents? If not, why do you expect it in Edinburgh?
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