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Letter from HMRC 4 years post bankruptcy

Hiya.

We went bankrupt in June 2013. I paid moonbeaver my tax payments through my wages. So I had a nil tax code.

I have had a letter today from HMRC to say I owe £2700 which when I have called them they tell me it was from year 2013 - 2014.

Am I the only one who didn’t realise this would happen???? The lady I spoke to at HMRC has passed my record on to their specialist bankruptcy team to look into it more but I’m completely in shock. It seems so out of the blue.

Please help, any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
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  • TheGardener
    TheGardener Posts: 3,303 Forumite
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    If you had a nil TC and were paying your 'surplus' to moonbeaver - you shouldn't have a tax bill for that period at all. You need to speak to HMRC and double check they have all the right info.
  • wharty
    wharty Posts: 426 Forumite
    It was my understanding that the Nil tax code means you still owe the tax on your earnings while bankrupt. The tax code means you have a surplus to pay your creditors. Once you get your normal code you will then still have to pay the tax that you owe to HMRC but a year later? Hope I’m wrong.
  • luvchocolate
    luvchocolate Posts: 3,418 Forumite
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    The tax due during the tax year of your B.R is paid to the O.R.
    In April you go back to P.A.Y.E. as normal.
    You do not have to pay it twice.
  • Suzanne83
    Suzanne83 Posts: 53 Forumite
    Hopefully they will get back to me soon then. Praying it’s an oversight!

    Thanks for your replies x
  • TheGardener
    TheGardener Posts: 3,303 Forumite
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    wharty wrote: »
    It was my understanding that the Nil tax code means you still owe the tax on your earnings while bankrupt. The tax code means you have a surplus to pay your creditors. Once you get your normal code you will then still have to pay the tax that you owe to HMRC but a year later? Hope I’m wrong.

    No! Not at all. HMRC simply become creditors same as everyone else like the bank and whoever else you owe money to. The OR collects the tax money you don't pay due to the NT code - via an agent (like moonbeaver or Clarke Willmot). This continues until either the start of the next new tax year in April or if you change jobs - which ever comes first. From the start of the new tax year you pay your tax on your earning as normal - there is no 'back tax' to pay.
  • Suzanne83
    Suzanne83 Posts: 53 Forumite
    So you think this is an error and I shouldn’t have to pay it??


    Thanks,
  • TheGardener
    TheGardener Posts: 3,303 Forumite
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    edited 8 October 2017 at 7:59AM
    Suzanne83 wrote: »
    So you think this is an error and I shouldn’t have to pay it??


    Thanks,

    It does sound like an error - I think you need to check with HMRC that they understand you were BR during that 2013/14 tax year and you were on an NT code and that moonbeaver were collecting the 'surplus' for the OR. You should not have been liable for tax until April 2014 onwards unless you changed jobs during that 13/14 year. And if oyou did change jobs, you should have had a normal tax code and paid normal tax from the start of the new job regardless of whether it was during the 13/14 tax year.
  • Suzanne83
    Suzanne83 Posts: 53 Forumite
    No I didn’t change jobs. I really hope this “team” ring me back ASAP.

    I hope you’re right. Thank you
  • TheGardener
    TheGardener Posts: 3,303 Forumite
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    edited 8 October 2017 at 8:22AM
    It might be helpful to get your BR paperwork together ready to send a copy of the judgement as proof of your NT liability. Any tax arears prior to the 2013/14 year would have fallen into the BR anyway. Your tax liability will be from April 2014 onwards only.
  • Suzanne83
    Suzanne83 Posts: 53 Forumite
    We never had any tax arrears...that I know of! But yes good idea.
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