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    Money Moral Dilemma: Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?
    • #1
    • 11th Aug 09, 3:08 PM
    Money Moral Dilemma: Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access? 11th Aug 09 at 3:08 PM
    Here's this week's hypothetical situation for you to cogitate on:

    Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?

    You're busy and town's even busier - all the usually available free on-street parking's gone. But after driving round for 15 minutes you spot a space, pull in, then notice a sign on the back of the car in front requesting, "please leave a six-foot gap between my car and yours so I can get the wheelchair in and out of the boot". If you stay there, there'd be a foot at most, but the alternative's an NCP at £5/hour.

    Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?

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    • scotsbob
    • By scotsbob 11th Aug 09, 6:02 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 6:02 PM
    NO.

    I would never block a wheelchair access. it wouldn't be fair to prevent some crippled guy wanting to get into his car.

    Besides it's officially illegal to do so..


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    • relaxtwotribes
    • By relaxtwotribes 11th Aug 09, 6:59 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 6:59 PM
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    YES.
    This is an easy one. All the other driver has to do is to exit the parking space into the roadway, where he will have the space necessary to get the wheelchair in and out of the boot.
    • Flickering Ember
    • By Flickering Ember 11th Aug 09, 7:49 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 7:49 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 7:49 PM
    No. I love moneysaving, but there are limits, and this is where I reach mine.

    Edit to add: Besides, I'd probably end up with some sort of fine which would make the £5 NCP alternative positively welcoming!!
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  • foxxymynx
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    • 11th Aug 09, 8:30 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 8:30 PM
    YES.
    This is an easy one. All the other driver has to do is to exit the parking space into the roadway, where he will have the space necessary to get the wheelchair in and out of the boot.
    Originally posted by relaxtwotribes
    He or she may not be able to. :rolleyes:
    this is just one of many possible situations.

    Push a wheelchair through to the drivers seat from the rear of the vehicle.

    Alot of wheelchair users can drive you know! :rolleyes:
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    • LeeSouthEast
    • By LeeSouthEast 11th Aug 09, 8:31 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 8:31 PM
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    Depends how long I was going to be. If I had to dump the car to pay in a cheque, then YES. They can wait 5 minutes while I do that. If I'm going for an all-afternoon shopping spree (haha, when was the last time I did that?), then NO.
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    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 11th Aug 09, 11:11 PM
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    • 11th Aug 09, 11:11 PM
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    No I wouldn't park in front of the vehicle as long as they were sensibly parked, there's bound to be another space shortly.
  • moneyballs2
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    • 12th Aug 09, 1:10 AM
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    • 12th Aug 09, 1:10 AM
    YES.
    This is an easy one. All the other driver has to do is to exit the parking space into the roadway, where he will have the space necessary to get the wheelchair in and out of the boot.
    Originally posted by relaxtwotribes
    I don't quite understand your post.

    This is how It comes across to me. I hope I don't sound like a fool by not understanding your point, this is simply how I read it:

    Are you saying that the disabled driver should get out of his chair, into the car, move the car into the road, back out of the car, put his wheelchair into the boot whilst his car is in the roadway blocking other traffic? All the while considering that he will most likely find entering and exiting the car no easy task, adding to that the fact he will have to leave his wheelchair on the pavement and then walk 6+feet to retrieve it to place in his boot.

    In answer to this, I wouldn't park in that space if I knew I was going to be parked there for a long period of time, if I'm just running into the newsagents to get a newspaper or a drink and I know I will be minutes, then I would consider it over paying to use the carpark.
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    • jeanmd
    • By jeanmd 12th Aug 09, 1:16 AM
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    • 12th Aug 09, 1:16 AM
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    • 12th Aug 09, 1:16 AM
    NO! Anyone who says they will wants to try having a disability for a short while. Would you sit there and wait for someone to comeback so you could get in your car?
    And as for moving the car to get the wheelchair in.
    Also, the fact that it needs a six foot gap means it is someone who doesn't get in and out of their wheelchair, you don't need the sign if you put the wheelchair down.
    Last edited by jeanmd; 12-08-2009 at 1:19 AM.
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    • Cloudane
    • By Cloudane 12th Aug 09, 1:27 AM
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    No...

    Parking in a disabled space is illegal, I think? Even if this is a loophole since it's not a designated disable space, no. I'll leave that to the 4x4 and Audi drivers.
    • WhyIsSavingSoHard
    • By WhyIsSavingSoHard 12th Aug 09, 1:34 AM
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    This is one of my all time hates ~ people who park making it difficult or impossible for disabled! I'm able bodied, so not speaking from experience, but there's no way I'd park my car to purposely block anyone.
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    • Chrisca50
    • By Chrisca50 12th Aug 09, 7:13 AM
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    No, I certainly would not

    Would I like this done to me if I was in that position???? No, so I wouldn't dream of doing it to anyone else
    • tallgirld
    • By tallgirld 12th Aug 09, 7:15 AM
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    NO WAY!!! It would be extremely selfish to do so.

    Plus I wouldn't want to risk coming back to my car to find that my tyres have been deflated or my car keyed!!!!
    • Sheepster
    • By Sheepster 12th Aug 09, 7:24 AM
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    No. It would be a more than selfish thing to do, and frankly I think there is much too much selfishness with drivers as it is.

    But...........in reply to all those flaming the poster who suggested the driver could reverse out, then get the wheelchair in, suggesting how could the wheelchair bound driver do this (Because they're wheelchair bound), then think just a moment. How would the wheelchair bound driver get in anyway?
    This sign is on the boot - unless it's some incredibly adapted vehicle, where the back opens right out, and a ramp comes down, and they wheel straight in and up to the wheel, then he/she has to get out of the wheelchair anyway - and probably has an able bodied driver with he/she.
  • BigSky
    Absolutely NOT! Only the most ignorant lazy !!!! would do that.

    I’d park in a “family” parking bay though even if I was on my own. Why should people that decide to bring their screaming, fat, badly-behaved kids round the supermarket get special parking bays?
  • swapper1937
    Certainly not!
    • Garetha
    • By Garetha 12th Aug 09, 7:29 AM
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    Garetha
    No way!
    "There but for the grace of God ..."

    On a related issue: so many idiots see any parking space as theirs for the taking - whether it's a disabled space or parent & child.
    I'd like to see all these people clamped.
    • bootsobe
    • By bootsobe 12th Aug 09, 7:34 AM
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    No
    NO way

    for all the same reasons that others said NO
    Morally unacceptable.
  • americanv8
    Maybe but i'm basing that purely on the amount of disabled drivers who think its ok to park in parent & child bay because there's no disabled bays free. I can't park in a disabled bay with a baby and toddler when there's no parent & child bays available.
    I can only say i'm pleased that ASDA & Sainsburys are now fining people who abuse both sets of bays.
    Last edited by americanv8; 12-08-2009 at 7:44 AM.
  • kevwright
    Absolutely NOT! Only the most ignorant lazy !!!! would do that.

    I’d park in a “family” parking bay though even if I was on my own. Why should people that decide to bring their screaming, fat, badly-behaved kids round the supermarket get special parking bays?
    Originally posted by BigSky
    Sadly its done cos said fat, screaming kids pile the trolley high with sweets and crisps :-)

    Kev
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