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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Jun 15, 7:25 AM
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    Green, ethical, energy issues in the news (last 2 weeks)
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    Green, ethical, energy issues in the news (last 2 weeks) 9th Jun 15 at 7:25 AM
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    I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread for posting general news items that may be of interest.

    PV and the 'Solar in the news' thread attract a lot of interest, so here's a thread for all the other goings on.

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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 2nd Dec 19, 2:22 PM
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    5 million social homes in the UK
    Give each one a 3KW smart heater
    They just plug it in the hallway

    When there is excess wind the grid dumps the energy into these heaters for free
    110% efficient electricity to gas conversion. Costs ~£100 million for the smart heaters which are slid state totally passive and should last 30 years. Able to absorb as much as 15GW of extra wind power rather than curtailing it

    Why pay big chemical companies to do inefficient dirty slow electricity to chemicals back to electricity when you can use electricity directly as above.

    But this isn't really an issue for the UK or Germany anytime soon
    With the nukes coming offline over the next 3-9 years there will be more space for both wind power and fossil fuels to take up the lost nuclear.

    In the UK we will also have more links come online so instead of curtail or do the chemicals dance we will just export the excess. UK will probably build out another 10GW of links over the 2020s with two about to come online in 1month and 6 months time

    Electricity to chemicals shouldn't be seen as positive it's very negative for at least the next 15-20 years.
    • Hexane
    • By Hexane 2nd Dec 19, 2:30 PM
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    5 million social homes in the UK
    Give each one a 3KW smart heater
    They just plug it in the hallway
    Originally posted by GreatApe
    Better give them a free smoke alarm at the same time, because if you plug in a free electric heater in their hallway, one in ten of them will hang wet towels over it to dry them.
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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 2nd Dec 19, 2:34 PM
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    Article looking at bio-fuels to replace petrol during the transition to BEV's, but I suspect it's a little more controversial than that given the scale of fuels needed, and (in my opinion) the potential for slowing a transition away from the ICE, and localised exhaust pipe emissions. But, for air and sea transport, perhaps?

    Biofuels Could Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions By 96%
    Originally posted by Martyn1981

    Transport should be plug in hybrids which cover 95% of miles under electric and the other 5% can be biofuels

    Something as low as 30 miles real EV plug in range and with plugs everywhere would cover almost all trips in the UK. Average daily useage in the UK is only 20 miles if this is split between 2.5 trips that's just 8 miles average car trip. So 30 miles will cover the bulk of all mileage especially urban miles will be 99% covered with a 30 mile plug in

    What remains can be covered by bio-alcohol in place of petrol

    This is better than full BEVs which weigh much more and require much more manufacturing and the world capacity of batteries is much more limited in trying to build 300 mile range BEVs Vs 30 mile range plug ins.

    Your shareholding in Tesla will make you disagree but the above is the solution to pollution
    10 plug in cars replacing 95% of 7,200 miles per year oil = 68,400 miles electrified
    1 plug in long range BEV replacing 100% = 7,200 miles electrified

    Taxis buses and other high mileage vehicles can be full BEVs as they make sense there
    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 2nd Dec 19, 3:05 PM
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    Better give them a free smoke alarm at the same time, because if you plug in a free electric heater in their hallway, one in ten of them will hang wet towels over it to dry them.
    Originally posted by Hexane

    People aren't that thick Even in the UK a million+ resistance heaters are sold per year.
    Most the homes in Norway are electric resistance heaters they seem to manage

    But fine if you think they don't know better can make it a sealed electric heater which functions fine when towels or whatever are covering them.

    But the general point is that with some semi smart software you can do virtual electricity to chemicals rather than actual electricity to chemicals

    Cost is 100x less
    No land useage
    No chemicals waste
    No building waste
    Conversion efficiency of 110-130% rather than 50-70%
    No significant labor cost
    If subsidy is required it's going to social tenants rather than a chemicals company

    Upto 15GW electricity to gas virtual conversation
    Can even extend this to non social homes maybe to pensioners which are maybe another 5 million homes at 15GW
    • michaels
    • By michaels 2nd Dec 19, 8:22 PM
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    People aren't that thick Even in the UK a million+ resistance heaters are sold per year.
    Most the homes in Norway are electric resistance heaters they seem to manage

    But fine if you think they don't know better can make it a sealed electric heater which functions fine when towels or whatever are covering them.

    But the general point is that with some semi smart software you can do virtual electricity to chemicals rather than actual electricity to chemicals

    Cost is 100x less
    No land useage
    No chemicals waste
    No building waste
    Conversion efficiency of 110-130% rather than 50-70%
    No significant labor cost
    If subsidy is required it's going to social tenants rather than a chemicals company

    Upto 15GW electricity to gas virtual conversation
    Can even extend this to non social homes maybe to pensioners which are maybe another 5 million homes at 15GW
    Originally posted by GreatApe
    Extra heat is not so much use for solar curtailment.
    Cool heads and compromise
    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 3rd Dec 19, 12:30 AM
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    Extra heat is not so much use for solar curtailment.
    Originally posted by michaels
    The answer to this is simple, don't overbuild solar in the UK
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 3rd Dec 19, 8:05 AM
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    UK report on shale is out, and there's nothing to see, no seriously ..... there's nothing to see!

    'Black wall' of redacted pages as fracking report finally released

    The government has heavily redacted a secret report into the fracking industry after it was forced to comply with a court order for its release.

    The Whitehall report on the UK shale gas sector emerged on Monday after a years-long battle to uncover the hidden documents – but with three quarters of its pages blacked out. The 48-page report, seen by the Guardian, includes 37 pages that are entirely blacked out and only one – the front cover – that was left uncensored.

    The remaining paragraphs outline plans to help frackers by countering the public’s rising public opposition to the industry with a government-led campaign to develop a “pro-shale narrative”.

    The report, written in 2016, was finally released after an information tribunal ruled that it would be in the public interest to disclose its findings. Greenpeace has fought a long legal battle with the government over the suppression of the document.

    Rebecca Newsom, Greenpeace UK’s head of politics, said: “Looking at this black wall of redacted pages, people will be wondering why there’s so little the government is willing to reveal about fracking and so much it wants to hide.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 3rd Dec 19, 8:07 AM
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    US Congress commits to act on climate crisis, despite Donald Trump

    The US will take action on greenhouse gases and engage with other countries on the climate emergency despite Donald Trump’s rejection of international cooperation, a delegation from the US Congress has told the UN climate conference in Madrid.

    Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, struck a defiant stance on Monday, declaring: “Congress’s commitment to action on the climate crisis is iron-clad. This is a matter of public health, of clean air, of clean water, of our children, of the survival of our economies, of the prosperity of the world, of national security, justice and equality. We now must deliver deeper cuts in emissions.”

    Her rallying call came as developing countries accused the US president of “ecocide” and the UN secretary-general said the world’s biggest emitters were falling behind.

    But they're not the only US representatives:

    Heartland Institute Sponsoring Climate Rebuttal At COP 25 Tuesday

    I cannot for the life of me understand why I am on the Heartland Institute’s email list. If you aren’t familiar with the organization, it is a captive mouthpiece of Charles and David Koch which has been spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt about the role fossil fuels have played in rising average global temperatures for the past 35 years.

    There is a whole coterie of people who make their living by attaching themselves to the Kochs and the fossil fuel industry and saying whatever they are paid to say. They busy themselves churning out reports and studies that start with the desired conclusion and then work backwards to create so-called data to support the end result. To do otherwise would see their personal gravy train come to an abrupt halt. There are names for people like that and you can probably think of a few of them yourself.

    I got an email from the Heartland Institute on Monday letting me know that they were sponsoring a 5-hour long presentation designed to refute what they call “the United Nations’ climate delusion” featuring a string of well known climate deniers, all of whom feed at the same trough where Koch and fossil fuel money flows 24/7 for anyone willing to put aside any shred of intelligence or decency.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 3rd Dec 19, 8:17 AM
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    News in Ireland on RE auctions:

    Maiden Ireland renewable auction details revealed as solar cleared to compete

    Subject to state aid approval, the first auction will be in early 2020 and will be for up to 3,000GWh of electricity. At least 1,000GWh of power is to be contracted for.

    If solar were to snap up 10% on the auction, somewhere in the range of 100MW – 300MW can expect to be contracted.

    Further auctions will be set depending on the renewables pipeline, but the government estimates that there will be four between 2020 and 2027 in order to meet the 2030 goal.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 3rd Dec 19, 12:41 PM
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    Some wave energy testing to take place in Wales:

    Welsh port welcomes Oz wave partnership

    The Port of Milford Haven in Wales has signed a memorandum of understanding with an Australian wave energy developer.

    The MoU, signed by Port of Milford Haven chief executive Andy Jones and Bombora managing director Sam Leighton, will target economic opportunities presented by marine renewable energy within the Swansea Bay City Region and further afield.

    Bombora, which is developing a 1.5MW wave energy converter demonstration device, opened an office in Pembroke Dock in 2017.
    Bombora’s mWave device sits below the surface of the water where wave pressure causes its flexible rubber membrane to inflate and deflate pumping air through a turbine to generate electricity.
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    • Chapter11
    • By Chapter11 3rd Dec 19, 2:22 PM
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    5 million social homes in the UK
    Give each one a 3KW smart heater
    They just plug it in the hallway

    When there is excess wind the grid dumps the energy into these heaters for free
    110% efficient electricity to gas conversion. Costs ~£100 million for the smart heaters which are slid state totally passive and should last 30 years. Able to absorb as much as 15GW of extra wind power rather than curtailing it

    Why pay big chemical companies to do inefficient dirty slow electricity to chemicals back to electricity when you can use electricity directly as above.

    But this isn't really an issue for the UK or Germany anytime soon
    Originally posted by GreatApe
    Then lets not look for solutions to problems that dont exist when we have plenty of problems needing solutions..
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 4th Dec 19, 4:21 PM
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    A mixed bag of news, but I think one post will suffice, so expanding outwards from sunny Wales:

    Swansea Lagoon needs to start work or lose planning permission

    Swansea lagoon launches £1m last-ditch funding pitch

    Swansea Bay lagoon developer Tidal Power is trying to raise more than £1m to start enabling works at its 320MW project in Wales before consent expires next year.

    The Gloucester outfit has today launched a £1.2m share issue due to run until 20 March.

    It's been suggested that European countries should work together when it comes to off-shore wind

    EU urged to prioritise joint offshore development

    Germany's economics and energy minister Peter Altmaier today called for the development of joint offshore wind projects in the EU to be one of the priorities for the region's energy sector.

    Altmaier (pictured) made the call ahead of meeting of the European Energy Council, where the new European Commission will present priorities for the energy sector.

    “In my view, the priority for the further development of the EU energy regulatory framework is the increased development of joint offshore wind energy projects and the further development of gas market design and the promotion of sectoral coupling,” he said.

    And wind generation capacity in India is rising nicely, hopefully on track for 2022 targets

    Wind tops 37GW in India

    The country has a target of 60GW from the sector by 2022 to meet an overall renewables goal of 175GW

    Wind power capacity in India has reached over 37GW, according to the latest government figures.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 5th Dec 19, 7:54 AM
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    It feels strange even needing to post this article, but with so much pushback on science, facts and reality this year, it might be worth reminding ourselves that the science was, is and will remain solid on this subject regardless of what opinion/faith based deniers might claim.

    Climate models have accurately predicted global heating, study finds

    Climate models have accurately predicted global heating for the past 50 years, a study has found.

    The findings confirm that since as early as 1970, climate scientists have had a solid fundamental understanding of the Earth’s climate system and the ability to project how it will respond to continued increases in the greenhouse effect. Since climate models have accurately anticipated global temperature changes so far, we can expect projections of future warming to be reliable as well.
    “We found that climate models – even those published back in the 1970s – did remarkably well, with 14 out of the 17 model projections indistinguishable from what actually occurred,” said Zeke Hausfather, of the University of California, Berkeley, and lead author of the paper.
    The challenge in evaluating climate model accuracy lies in the fact that due to computing power limitations, simulations are only run for a few specific future greenhouse gas emissions scenarios. There are an infinite number of such possible scenarios, but real-world emissions will follow only one path, and it will never exactly match the few scenarios input into climate models. Thus, if Earth warms less than in a climate model projection, it does not necessarily mean the model was inaccurate.
    If only we'd listened to the science from day one, rather than being led by the science denial of interested parties.

    But the big question now, I believe, is, will we now start listening and getting on with serious AGW mitigation?

    ABrass made a crucial point a while back pointing to the fact that spending on mitigation saves 7x as much spending on adaptation, so, every £1 not spent in the World on mitigation makes adaptation £7 worse off, or to put it another way, every £1 moved from mitigation to adaptation makes mitigation a £1 worse off, and adaptation £6 worse off ..... crazee!
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 5th Dec 19, 8:00 AM
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    Solar too? Looks like PV is getting so cheap we might as well slap it down anywhere and everywhere, and all achieved largely in one decade, and batteries nearly there too. Cool.

    Scottish Power plans to build solar panels beside windfarms

    Scottish Power plans to squeeze more renewable electricity from its onshore windfarms by covering the ground beside the turbines with photovoltaic panels and batteries.

    The wind power firm has applied for permission to build its first solar power projects beneath the blades of its existing windfarms in Cornwall, Lancashire and Coldham.

    Scottish Power says it hopes to include solar panels in the vast majority of its future onshore windfarms across Scotland and Ireland, depending on whether the ground conditions are suitable for panels.

    Keith Anderson, Scottish Power’s chief executive, said: “Every green megawatt of electricity will be crucial if we stand any chance of hitting net zero in 2050. This means squeezing the absolute maximum potential out of every clean energy project that we consider.”
    The company’s renewable energy division has considered almost 100 sites in Scotland and Ireland for a new breed of windfarm that uses fewer powerful turbines and can be fitted with solar panels and batteries.

    In some cases, adding 10MW panels and 10MW of energy storage could double the green energy capacity of small windfarm sites.
    “The costs for building wind, solar and batteries have reduced considerably in recent years, and they complement each other very well. They perform best at different times of the day and at different times of the year.”
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 5th Dec 19, 8:18 AM
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    Battery article caught my eye as it appears to be a DNO based addition, and I find that interesting as a way to help balance different aspects of the grid.

    Storage team primed for Dorset battery

    Fotowatio Renewable Ventures (FRV), part of Abdul Latif Jameel Energy, is collaborating with Harmony Energy on a battery storage project in Dorset, England.

    The 15 megawatt-hour Holes Bay project will be comprised of lithium-ion batteries connected to the Southern Electric Power distribution network.

    Construction will start in January 2020, with commissioning expected within three months.
    Harmony Energy chief executive Peter Kavanagh said: “This is a hugely significant project for Harmony, because it is the first in a large pipeline of utility-scale battery storage plants in the UK, and we’re looking forward to working with FRV to bring Holes Bay forward in the new year.

    “Wind and solar projects remain key but battery storage is the missing link in the UK’s renewable energy strategy, both in terms of controlling grid frequency and providing backup during periods of peak demand and supply.
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    • ASavvyBuyer
    • By ASavvyBuyer 5th Dec 19, 9:07 PM
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    Solar Powered Train
    Just seen this on TV, so thought I would look up the details.

    Byron Bay Solar Powered Train

    Apparently they have surplus electric that they sell to the grid!
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 6th Dec 19, 8:33 AM
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    Cali joins a small number of US states to ban fracking:

    California Intensifies Fossil Fuel Fight With New Drilling Ban

    California intensified its battle against fossil fuels by seeking independent reviews of all pending hydraulic fracturing permits and halting approvals of a key production technique in an area that has pumped crude for more than a century.


    Governor Gavin Newsom ordered regulators to assess the safety of high-pressure steamflooding, a production process that has been linked to recent oil leaks in Kern County, the state’s Department of Conservation said in a statement Tuesday. The state is also requesting third-party scientific reviews of any pending applications for fracking, as well as looking for ways to toughen regulations to protect residents near oil and natural gas well sites.

    It’s the latest in a series of actions or threats against unconventional oil and gas production. Democratic presidential contenders Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have promised to ban fracking if elected. The U.K. government halted new fracking wells in England earlier this month on concerns about earthquakes.

    Newsom, a San Francisco Democrat in his first term as governor, has been stepping up pressure on oil and natural gas producers through a series of initiatives such as denying permits and drilling leases on land that is or once was protected by federal authorities.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 6th Dec 19, 8:54 AM
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    Thought I'd shoehorn this article in as it really surprised me, in a good way:

    Cutting air pollution ‘can prevent deaths within weeks’

    Cutting air pollution can prevent deaths within weeks, according to scientists. They found the health benefits of clean air were “almost immediate and substantial” and stretched into the long term, saving billions of dollars.

    The review examined the evidence for the reduction of illness after levels of toxic air were reduced. It showed dramatic reductions in asthma and children missing school, heart attacks and the number of small and premature babies.

    “I was surprised at how rapidly the benefits arise,” said Prof Dean Schraufnagel, at the University of Illinois at Chicago and lead author of the report.

    “Our findings indicate almost immediate and substantial effects. It is critical that governments adopt and enforce World Health Organization guidelines for air pollution immediately.

    “Sweeping policies affecting a whole country can reduce mortality within weeks. Local programmes, such as reducing traffic, have also promptly improved many health measures.”
    Perhaps a great argument for increasing support for BEV's, as any front loaded subsidies might pay for themselves in reduced load on the NHS?
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 6th Dec 19, 1:14 PM
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    If I'm reading this article correctly, and I'm not sure I am, then the suggestion is to store PV generation in molten salt, the way CSP would. Effectively taking the 'simple' PV technology, and combining it with the 'simple' storage part of CSP. I think!

    1414 Degrees to power abandoned Aurora CSP site with PV and thermal storage

    Plans for electricity generation at the Aurora concentrated solar power project site have been rekindled by Adelaide-based thermal energy storage company 1414 Degrees, which has unveiled new plans for the location. The 150 MW Aurora plant billed as the world’s biggest ground to a halt earlier this year after U.S. developer SolarReserve had run into difficulties in securing finance for the project.

    On Friday, 1414 Degrees announced plans to acquire SolarReserve Australia II, which owns the Aurora project in South Australia and two more solar sites in New South Wales. The company’s plan is to refocus the Aurora site and build up to 400 MW of solar PV coupled with a grid-scale Thermal Energy Storage System (TESS-GRID), which it plans to progressively scale up the storage capacity of several thousand MWh.
    On top of that, the company will be looking to use heat from the TESS-GRID to power “smart farms”, protected cropping greenhouses and industry, as it meanwhile investigates production of hydrogen using the excess heat from its turbines. Earlier this year, 1414 Degrees came together with a number of partners to identify and develop “smart farm” projects using its thermal energy storage solution, which stores electricity as thermal energy by heating and melting containers full of silicon and, according to the company, comes at a cost up to 10 times cheaper than lithium batteries.
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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 6th Dec 19, 10:29 PM
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    Perhaps a great argument for increasing support for BEV's, as any front loaded subsidies might pay for themselves in reduced load on the NHS?
    Originally posted by Martyn1981

    Marty I'm concerned my coal phase out NHS dividend hasn't arrived yet do you know who I can complain to for them to sort it out?

    Heath studies on fossil fuel useage are more or less worthless propaganda
    In the same way as studies in various foods are more or less worthless

    Apparently men in West London have the highest life expectancy in the whole of Europe and much more than men in Scotland. We can only postulate that the high concentration of diesel fumes in West London has a positive impact on longevity. That or car funds are so negligible other factors dwarf it

    Also even if your nonsense article was true if you extend a life it doesn't mean this person becomes an immortal Greek god, he might live a couple years longer and require treatment two years later for whatever else gets him. So you don't save £xx you save probably nothing. Instead of dying of a lung condition at 85 he lives another two years and gets two years of pension and benefits then gets cancer and dies slowly over a period of one year at age 88 having cost the NHS and government even more

    Do heavy smokers cost the NHS / government?
    They voluntarily give up £200k in pensions and benefits if they die age 65 rather than 85
    Depending on how quick they die they also save the NHS in care home fees and potentially slow costly old age deaths


    Overall
    Stop quoting nonsense studies
    Might as well get your nice to draw a number on a napkin with some crayons it would be just as reliable
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