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NHS employment changes - NHS to Agency

ubdai
ubdai Posts: 77 Forumite
in Employment, jobseeking & training
My wife has just come back home and told me that the new boss at the hospital wants to move all Domestic staff over from permanent NHS employees to an agency.

This is quite a shock especially as the staff have only just been moved across to new contracts within the NHS. It seems that each new boss the hospital gets wants to make his name by introducing a change which does not seem to have been thought through and is just a money saving move.

I would like to know if there are any other NHS Domestic staff on this forum who have recently encountered the same issue.

Even though my wife is a member of UNISON, they do not seem to be that aware or organised with how to best fight this ridiculous management decision.

Cheers all
ubdai

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  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    How long has she been employed by the NHS?


    How was she moved over to the NHS?


    How long was she employed by the agency?
  • ubdai
    ubdai Posts: 77 Forumite
    How long has she been employed by the NHS?
    14 years

    How was she moved over to the NHS?
    Never, always a permanent employee

    How long was she employed by the agency?
    Never, new boss wants to TUPE people over to an agency.
  • ohreally
    ohreally Posts: 7,525 Forumite
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    The member should contact the branch office for support, if it's not forthcoming contact the regional office for this to be picked up.
    Don’t be a can’t, be a can.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    ubdai wrote: »
    How long has she been employed by the NHS?
    14 years

    How was she moved over to the NHS?
    Never, always a permanent employee

    How long was she employed by the agency?
    Never, new boss wants to TUPE people over to an agency.
    Contact the union
  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    If your local union reps are not forthcoming, go straight to your regional office. (I've done this before in the NHS and the regional office was really helpful - they've got far more experience and training than local reps.)


    Also, surely the decision to outsource domestic services would have to go out to tender? A manager can't simply decide to hand the service over to an agency.
  • ohreally
    ohreally Posts: 7,525 Forumite
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    Is your home insurer onboard with the arrangement.

    Are risk assessments to be conducted, it's now a workplace?
    Don’t be a can’t, be a can.
  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    ohreally wrote: »
    Is your home insurer onboard with the arrangement.

    Are risk assessments to be conducted, it's now a workplace?


    Wrong thread?
  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    Further to my post #6, I'm surprised that any NHS trust still has an in-house domestic services - most of them were put out to tender and outsourced 20 or more years ago.


    Are you sure your wife is still a NHS employee?
  • ubdai
    ubdai Posts: 77 Forumite
    Manxman_in_exile wrote: »
    Further to my post #6, I'm surprised that any NHS trust still has an in-house domestic services - most of them were put out to tender and outsourced 20 or more years ago.


    Are you sure your wife is still a NHS employee?

    Yep, she gets a payslip from the local NHS Trust. No agency markings what so ever.
  • ubdai
    ubdai Posts: 77 Forumite
    Manxman_in_exile wrote: »
    If your local union reps are not forthcoming, go straight to your regional office. (I've done this before in the NHS and the regional office was really helpful - they've got far more experience and training than local reps.)


    Also, surely the decision to outsource domestic services would have to go out to tender? A manager can't simply decide to hand the service over to an agency.

    Thanks for this info. I will pass it across to her to make contact with regional rep.
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