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Db transfer to Dc

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  • bostonerimus
    bostonerimus Posts: 5,617 Forumite
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    Harry81 wrote: »
    From the last 3 years of my pot growth and what I've been reading up on. From what ive read 4-5% cautious 6-7% balanced 8-9% adventurous. Over 20 - 30 years i guess it is more of a gamble than a guaranteed 2.5% but surely worth the risk.:beer: or not :eek:

    With a DB pension (or annuity) you are paying for guaranteed lifetime income. With drawdown from a DC pension there is no guarantee. If the statistics of future stock and bond markets are similar to those of the past then a 60/40 equity to bond allocation should give you a 95% chance of being able to draw an inflation indexed 3.5% for 30 years without running out of money. Notice all qualifications and used of the conditional tense in the last sentence.
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
  • LHW99
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    Whereas a dc scheme seems to grow between 5% and 10%

    But it may also drop by up to 50% in a year if things go really pear-shaped. Could you cope with seeing that, or would you sell out in a panic? What would happen if that really bad year was the one just after you retired?
  • bostonerimus
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    LHW99 wrote: »
    But it may also drop by up to 50% in a year if things go really pear-shaped. Could you cope with seeing that, or would you sell out in a panic? What would happen if that really bad year was the one just after you retired?

    50% stock market losses are very rare, but they have happened. If a withdrawal is set at 3.5% then a couple of really bad years at the beginning would probably push you into the 5% failure rate for a sensible 60/40 portfolio. So in bad years you should reduce your withdrawals, get a part time job or spend from the cash you set aside for just such a bad sequence of returns. Of course if you don't have a portfolio that is diverse and has broad stock market statistics then your chances of failure will go up. if you put everything into an alternative energy mini-bond or a single small cap stock the risk of failure will increase.
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
  • Joey_Soap
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    My 2p worth. Stick with the DB scheme unless you think there is a very real chance of the scheme sponsor (the ex employer) going bust.

    Review in 10 years time.
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